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Offline Peter B

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Re: Conclusive Proof the Moon Landings were Faked
« Reply #615 on: December 20, 2024, 09:19:22 AM »
So you're suggesting that because NASA is in danger of being defunded by the US government, a viable strategy for it is to approach the US government...for more money.
The funds from Congress were to fund NASA.  Without NASA funding, all is lost.   Baron and his 500-page report needed to not be in the spotlight, else it cast more doubt on NASA as a whole.  But Baron was relentless, and was roping in more witnesses -- until he wasn't.

NASAX didn't have a public budget - it was rolled into the NASA budget and maybe even some from the DoD.  Shifting money around is an easy govt task.

Yeah, sorry, WHAT?? If Congress ceases NASA's Apollo funding, Apollo is finished, "NASAX" or not. Do you seriously think that people won't ask what's going on if work on Apollo continues after NASA's funding for it has been cut off?
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Offline Peter B

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Re: Conclusive Proof the Moon Landings were Faked
« Reply #616 on: December 20, 2024, 06:41:58 PM »
#1: And this is why you make it seem pointless to just explain stuff to you - you ignore it. See reply #372 in this thread for the explanation for Webb's resignation - the sort of politics that happens in the US government every time a new President is elected:
#2: Again, you'd know this if you paid the slightest attention to actual evidence.
#1: The election was a month away, and 3.5 months away from the transition of power.  In the meantime, why not stick around to be a part of this GRAND VICTORY (which is the FIRST TIME EVER that Astronauts have been launched through the Van Allen Belts, and then into orbit around the moon!)...

I hear your "evidence" - but equating "words given from top leaders about reasons for resignation" as Truth - -is a big stretch.

In the absence of evidence to the contrary, I'm sorry but you're just being argumentative.

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If you weren't biased, you might see this as fishy too.  Think about it more.   Webb was like the "Father of Apollo" - it was his brain-child.  He championed it.  It was based upon his zeal and confidence that Congress approved of the program.

Not only have I thought about it, I've been studying Apollo as history for more than 25 years, so I've examined it in far more detail than you have. Apollo wasn't Webb's "brain-child". It was devised before he was Administrator. Yes, he championed it with Congress, because that was his job as Administrator. But if you read his biography and read his NASA oral history you see that he was very much an eminence grise - a power behind the scenes, and not a rocket fan-boy.

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Then he makes what should have been a reckless decision to change the Apollo 8 mission into a Moon Orbit late-in-the-game - and you think that this was "his decision".  In order to make such a bold decision, you must have some real conviction about it...  but, instead he resigns 2 months later -- and does not even attend the launch!  Hmmm....  no fish here.

And once again your lack of knowledge leads you to draw conclusions that you think are suspicious. Webb didn't "make" the Apollo 8 decision. George Low made it and convinced other Apollo senior managers, and between them they convinced Webb, who was the most skeptical of the lot. So we know that your statement "you think that this was "his decision"" is incorrect.

As for not attending the launch, others have already pointed out to you Webb's record on attending launches.

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#2: "Paid attention to evidence..."
If you didn't simply give full credence to the narrative they "tell you" and instead looked at the actions/events that are transpiring -- you might see more compelling evidence.

Webb's actions indicate something different than the "excuse" he gave for resigning.  His excuse makes little sense.

And if Apollo 8 was a success, why on earth would Nixon replace the "Father of Apollo"??    Under his leadership/inspiration, wasn't Apollo 8 itself a miracle?   Would Nixon disrupt this leadership 6 months before Apollo 11?

Webb didn't want a part of Apollo anymore...  this is pretty blatant to neutral eyes.   GenZ won't fall for his "excuse" and call it "fact/evidence".

The current Administrator, Bill Nelson, is the 14th Administrator of NASA, and he'll be leaving to make way for Trump's nominee. Of the preceding 13 Administrators, it's reasonable to say that six of them left due to a change of President (Glennan, Webb, Frosch, Griffin, Bolden and Bridenstine). So that would make 50% of NASA Administrators leaving their jobs because of a change of President.

See what happens when you look at "the actions/events that are transpiring"?
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