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Gene Kranz living up to Andrew Chaikin's description...
« on: October 29, 2025, 04:13:27 PM »
..."as sentimental as they come". A Man on the Moon, page 170.

When I bought the DVD of Apollo 13 (the movie) in 2005 I was lucky to get the 2-DVD version, and at an excellent price. Disc 2 has three excellent documentaries. The first is "Lost Moon: The Triumph of Apollo 13" duration 0:58:07.

At 0:57:05 Kranz is talking about the time when the Apollo 13 crew arrived on the aircraft carrier Iwo Jima.

Gene Kranz:  "It's again tradition that you wait until the crew gets on the carrier deck, at which time cigars, and the world map lights up.  And... Oh shit!"  He pauses, goes silent, looks away, his face quivers, and he struggles get out, "It was neat."

Some people might complain about a moment like being made public, but I admire it because it reinforces for me that I'm not only watching and listening to a great man and a brilliant Flight Director, but also a kind and caring man. The world can do with more people like Gene Kranz.

My only real complaint about Apollo 13 is that they made such a botch-up of the timing of the Saturn V's ignition and liftoff. I was surprised and wondered how they managed to do that.
Don't criticize what you can't understand. — Bob Dylan, “The Times They Are A-Changin'” (1963)
Some people think they are thinking when they are really rearranging their prejudices and superstitions. — Edward R. Murrow (1908–65)

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Re: Gene Kranz living up to Andrew Chaikin's description...
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2025, 08:51:43 AM »
My only real complaint about Apollo 13 is that they made such a botch-up of the timing of the Saturn V's ignition and liftoff. I was surprised and wondered how they managed to do that.

It's even more surprising now that I've checked the list of Technical Consultants for Apollo 13 (shown at 2:09:34): Jim Lovell, Jeffrey Kluger, Dave Scott, Jerry Bostick, Gerald Griffin and Max L Ary. Perhaps they were over-confident and simply omitted to show their consultants the computer-generated footage of the liftoff - Ron Howard said it impressed Buzz Aldrin who obviously only saw it in the finished movie. Lovell, Scott and Griffin alone would have surely told them they had to redo the countdown timing so that ignition occurred at 8.9 seconds and liftoff at zero, the same as it did in real life.

Possibly a sad cause of them not being corrected was that the excellent TV docu-drama From the Earth to the Moon (1998), with Tom Hanks narrating, also had the same timing botch-up. Hanks was a great Apollo fan in his younger years, but must have not known about that.

I've known about it for at least 30 years and probably more. And perhaps with so few Apollo old-timers being around now, botch-ups like that will keep on occurring in the future, because many historians don't go right back to the earliest possible time to do their research and instead summarise and repeat the errors of their predecessors. Plus, of course, the finer details of space travel are extremely complex.

Speaking of botch-ups, I made one in post No. 1 where I should have written "struggles to get out". Oldfartitis (76) frequently causes those sort of things these days, to my annoyance.
Don't criticize what you can't understand. — Bob Dylan, “The Times They Are A-Changin'” (1963)
Some people think they are thinking when they are really rearranging their prejudices and superstitions. — Edward R. Murrow (1908–65)