Photos from Apollo 11 film footage

[Tedward]

profmunkin, if I may. Interesting thing with this flag is you can try this yourself to see what happens. That is of course in an atmosphere and observe the results and compare.

[Echnaton]

Please.  You make this kind of statement at the same time you complain in another thread of mistreatment while just asking simple questions.  There are no simple questions with you, everything is wrapped up within the belief that some unknown phenomenon is really the cause and then you deflect the prosaic when it is laid out right in front of you.

Its Hyperbole

It's backtracking because you now realize that the statement is revealing of the irrationality underlying your arguments.  You also reinforce my point, if we cannot differentiate between "hyperbole" and what you really mean, don't complain when people respond to the irrationality underlying your posts.  It is there for all to see.   

[profmunkin]

It's backtracking because you now realize that the statement is revealing of the irrationality underlying your arguments.  You also reinforce my point, if we cannot differentiate between "hyperbole" and what you really mean, don't complain when people respond to the irrationality underlying your posts.  It is there for all to see.

leave it here with words of wisdom from Bob B.
"Since the flag did indeed move, then obviously there is a not very obvious explanation."

[profmunkin]

profmunkin, if I may. Interesting thing with this flag is you can try this yourself to see what happens. That is of course in an atmosphere and observe the results and compare.

Thanks for the positive suggestion.

[Bob B.]

leave it here with words of wisdom from Bob B.
"Since the flag did indeed move, then obviously there is a not very obvious explanation."

The explanation for the movement of the flag may not be immediately obvious, but all the plausible explanations are obviously quite prosaic.  Please don't think for a moment that I endorse any of the hoax explanations, obviously.

[Echnaton]

It's backtracking because you now realize that the statement is revealing of the irrationality underlying your arguments.  You also reinforce my point, if we cannot differentiate between "hyperbole" and what you really mean, don't complain when people respond to the irrationality underlying your posts.  It is there for all to see.

leave it here with words of wisdom from Bob B.
"Since the flag did indeed move, then obviously there is a not very obvious explanation."

Hyperbole

[profmunkin]

  Please don't think for a moment that I endorse any of the hoax explanations, obviously.

OBVIOUSLY

I agree with your comment and you become suspicious. You guys are so paranoid.

I have no agenda.PERIOD.

[Echnaton]

You guys are so paranoid.

No. What we are is experienced with semi-closeted conspiracy believers. Those that feel free to sugest almost any cause except the prosaic and explained, but back off from any actual responsibility for supporting their posts.

[profmunkin]

You guys are so paranoid.

No. What we are is experienced with semi-closeted conspiracy believers. Those that feel free to sugest almost any cause except the prosaic and explained, but back off from any actual responsibility for supporting their posts.

Point taken.

[slang]

You can't even be positive that this is not an unknown phenomenon that happens in a vacuum, with strong radiation from the sun, with synthetic materials.

Which immediately raises the question why no such effect was ever observed without an astronaut moving very close to, and possibly, maybe even probably, touching the flag.

[JayUtah]

I agree with your comment and you become suspicious. You guys are so paranoid.

The "I'm just asking questions" approach is the most common one used by conspiracy theorists when debating.

Your agreement was equivocal, forcing Bob to issue a clarification.  Don't like to be misunderstood?  Don't equivocate.

I have no agenda.PERIOD.

Your agenda is apparently to confirm your prior belief that we are closed-minded irrational believers in the authenticity of Apollo.  That's what the "I'm just asking questions" approach is designed to achieve.  It baits people into responding to hoax arguments, then tries to achieve a rhetorical victory by pointing out that there's apparently no one actually defending the hoax.

[profmunkin]

Your agenda is apparently to confirm your prior belief that we are closed-minded irrational believers in the authenticity of Apollo.  That's what the "I'm just asking questions" approach is designed to achieve.  It baits people into responding to hoax arguments, then tries to achieve a rhetorical victory by pointing out that there's apparently no one actually defending the hoax.

I told Professor James Moriarty that his scheme would never fool you guys.
 

[gillianren]

Oh, your games are far too tedious and predictable for him.

[Not Myself]

Yes, many thousands of us have studied sequential-logic control systems since the late 1930s and practice the techniques professionally.

Wow, from the photo I've seen, you're looking quite good for someone who's been studying sequential-logic control systems since the late 1930s. 

Sorry, couldn't help myself.  I'll go now . . .

[raven]

Yes, many thousands of us have studied sequential-logic control systems since the late 1930s and practice the techniques professionally.

Wow, from the photo I've seen, you're looking quite good for someone who's been studying sequential-logic control systems since the late 1930s. 

Sorry, couldn't help myself.  I'll go now . . .

I suppose he could, in theory, if he had a womb with a view.