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Offline Laurel

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Re: Brilliant debunk video of hoax claims - HBs take note (if you can)
« Reply #60 on: January 21, 2013, 10:11:33 PM »
Still waiting for the PM, Mr. Engineer.
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Re: Brilliant debunk video of hoax claims - HBs take note (if you can)
« Reply #61 on: January 21, 2013, 10:13:34 PM »
Why then do you refer to the spacecraft which landed on the Moon as a LEM?

I didn't notice....nice job spotting that

That's how we know you are a fake...you use terminology no engineer would use...fact is, the only people who do use the term "LEM", are ignorant hoax believers.

Congratulations..you just debunked yourself. :D

From wikipedia:
The Apollo Lunar Module (LM), also known as the Lunar Excursion Module (LEM), was the lander portion of the Apollo spacecraft built for the US Apollo program by Grumman to carry a crew of two from lunar orbit to the surface and back. Six such craft successfully landed on the Moon between 1969–1972.

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Re: Brilliant debunk video of hoax claims - HBs take note (if you can)
« Reply #62 on: January 21, 2013, 10:15:49 PM »
I have no clue how a lunar rendezvous is achieved?

Then you are lying about being an engineer...simple as that...

Why must you lie in order to prove that Apollo was faked?

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Re: Brilliant debunk video of hoax claims - HBs take note (if you can)
« Reply #63 on: January 21, 2013, 10:16:50 PM »
Why then do you refer to the spacecraft which landed on the Moon as a LEM?

I didn't notice....nice job spotting that

That's how we know you are a fake...you use terminology no engineer would use...fact is, the only people who do use the term "LEM", are ignorant hoax believers.

Congratulations..you just debunked yourself. :D

From wikipedia:

Is that where you received your engineering degree??...from Wikipedia?

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Re: Brilliant debunk video of hoax claims - HBs take note (if you can)
« Reply #64 on: January 21, 2013, 10:17:29 PM »
Thanks for pointing out that little mistake in Wikipedia. I've fixed it.

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Re: Brilliant debunk video of hoax claims - HBs take note (if you can)
« Reply #65 on: January 21, 2013, 10:17:49 PM »
From the same Wikipedia page: "Over the course of its development, the name was officially changed to Lunar Module (LM), eliminating the word "excursion" (emphasis mine). According to George Low, Manager of the Apollo Spacecraft Program Office, this was because NASA was afraid that the word "excursion" might lend a frivolous note to Apollo."

Why doesn't an important engineer like yourself use the official term?
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Re: Brilliant debunk video of hoax claims - HBs take note (if you can)
« Reply #66 on: January 21, 2013, 10:18:28 PM »
Lets get something straight, sanchez....absolutely no one here thinks you are an engineer, so you might as well drop the "act".

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Re: Brilliant debunk video of hoax claims - HBs take note (if you can)
« Reply #67 on: January 21, 2013, 10:21:21 PM »
Why would anyone try to fake lunar gravity using slow motion AND a wire harness?
This was He Who Must Not Be Named's rationalization for the results of the Mythbusters' separate experiments with slow motion and wire supports. He harangued Adam Savage at a conference about it, and he even got miffed that the Mythbusters hadn't consulted him in advance (as THE 'grandson of the Apollo hoax theory') as to what the 'proper' theories were.

All very funny.

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Re: Brilliant debunk video of hoax claims - HBs take note (if you can)
« Reply #68 on: January 21, 2013, 10:21:47 PM »
The Wiki article also says that "Six such craft successfully landed on the Moon between 1969–1972."
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Re: Brilliant debunk video of hoax claims - HBs take note (if you can)
« Reply #69 on: January 21, 2013, 10:22:33 PM »
From the same Wikipedia page: "Over the course of its development, the name was officially changed to Lunar Module (LM), eliminating the word "excursion" (emphasis mine). According to George Low, Manager of the Apollo Spacecraft Program Office, this was because NASA was afraid that the word "excursion" might lend a frivolous note to Apollo."

Why doesn't an important engineer like yourself use the official term?
Why doesn't an important engineer like yourself use the official term?

Such an obvious, lame mistake...if this is the quality of hoax believer we're getting now, the Moon hoax believers are indeed a dying breed.

Really, really lame...

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Re: Brilliant debunk video of hoax claims - HBs take note (if you can)
« Reply #70 on: January 21, 2013, 10:26:17 PM »
So, um, Alex, what about your claim that All of the Apollo telemetry tapes were lost?
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Re: Brilliant debunk video of hoax claims - HBs take note (if you can)
« Reply #71 on: January 21, 2013, 10:30:24 PM »
I've got 30 years in aerospace.  I've worked at VAFB and KSC.

In what capacity?

Engineer.  I worked on space station guidance and control, too.

Oh yeah? And yet you don't have a b@stard clue about how lunar rendezvous is achieved.
Can I recommend 'The Apollo Guidance Computer: Architecture and Operation'
 By Frank O'Brien.   

As an observation, no real engineer ever addresses other engineers in an aggressive and confrontational manner.
It isn't a court room and adversarial arguments don't carry any weight. If that is all you have then I'll get the platter ready for your posterior. Science, maths, chemistry and physics are the only currency here.

I have no clue how a lunar rendezvous is achieved?  Either does NASA.

So you have read the book about the AGC already? Specifically p287 onwards, the chapter on Lunar Orbit Rendezvous. So we look forward to your scientific rebuttal. Will you be holding a symposium where you will present your work? Or publishing a paper under your own name.

Neither I'm guessing.

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Re: Brilliant debunk video of hoax claims - HBs take note (if you can)
« Reply #72 on: January 21, 2013, 10:36:46 PM »
"As an observation, no real engineer ever addresses other engineers in an aggressive and confrontational manner."  OMG, I am going to forward this to so many engineers.  You have no idea how funny that is.

As long as you're in e-mail mode, will you PM me your real name so I can confirm that you really worked at KSC?

You wouldn't be able to confirm anything.  You don't have access to that kind of information.  It was technically Cape Canaveral Air Force Station.  It's where the Air Force launch pads are.  I didn't work for NASA,  I was on an Air Force contract.

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Re: Brilliant debunk video of hoax claims - HBs take note (if you can)
« Reply #73 on: January 21, 2013, 10:37:34 PM »
The problem with Ed Fendell is they didn't need Ed Fendell.  The LEM should have sent a signal straight to the camera when the engine started, and the camera could have handled it from there.  Do you really think a guy was sitting in mission control with a joystick just to work the camera for 2 seconds?  Although, if you can get the telemetry uplink data for that mission, it would be in there.  I'd need the the data design document to know where it is in the data stream.

So you were at KSC yet never picked up that Ed was pushing lit buttons on a panel rather than using a joystick? And he was doing it for nearly all the 3 EVA durations? Again, how did you get that mixed up and missed? - he even wrote a widely circulated memo describing exactl what he was doing.

For the data stream printouts, try asking one of the ex engineers at the relevant stations.
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Re: Brilliant debunk video of hoax claims - HBs take note (if you can)
« Reply #74 on: January 21, 2013, 10:40:48 PM »
You wouldn't be able to confirm anything.  You don't have access to that kind of information.  It was technically Cape Canaveral Air Force Station.  It's where the Air Force launch pads are.  I didn't work for NASA,  I was on an Air Force contract.

I worked in the aerospace industry at Cape Canaveral for NASA as well. Although technically I was actually just a passenger in a 747 and I wasn't at the Cape, I was just at Mascot Airport, and it wasn't NASA but Sydney Aquarium I worked for. Still all I said was true.
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