Hunchback's major (mis)understanding of Apollo TV tech.

[ka9q]

The contortions some people will go through to cling onto their world view.

What really puzzles me about that particular video is that it wasn't a contortion necessary to cling to what I believe is his world view.

Like many Apollo deniers, hunchbacked accepts the reality of human space flight in low earth orbit. He could have claimed that the Aldrin sandwich-making video was taped in low earth orbit rather than in cislunar space and he'd be in good company with hoaxers like Bart Sibrel. His bizarre underwater-wearing-a-mask claim just makes him look like a lunatic.

[Peter B]

The contortions some people will go through to cling onto their world view.

What really puzzles me about that particular video is that it wasn't a contortion necessary to cling to that I believe is his world view.

Like many Apollo deniers, hunchbacked accepts the reality of human space flight in low earth orbit. He could have claimed that the Aldrin sandwich-making video was taped in low earth orbit rather than in cislunar space and he's be in good company with hoaxers like Bart Sibrel. His bizarre underwater-wearing-a-mask claim just makes him look like a lunatic.

Well, remember that Turbonium on UM claimed that the Chinese space walk from a couple of years ago was faked in a vat of liquid helium...http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?s=3fa952346808c09c4a8728c2bde5b58d&showtopic=136948&st=255#entry2770424

[ka9q]

Liquid helium?!

Its density ranges from 0.125 to 0.145 so people would have a very hard time floating in it. Even if they weren't frozen solid.

[Glom]

Makes me think of New Agers, who use technical jargon to make it sound like their rubbish isn't just made up nonsense.

He probably used liquid helium because he thought it sounded more technically advanced.

[frenat]

Makes me think of New Agers, who use technical jargon to make it sound like their rubbish isn't just made up nonsense.

He probably used liquid helium because he thought it sounded more technically advanced.

IIRC he used liquid helium because of the lack of friction.

[Procopius]

Well, remember that Turbonium on UM claimed that the Chinese space walk from a couple of years ago was faked in a vat of liquid helium...http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?s=3fa952346808c09c4a8728c2bde5b58d&showtopic=136948&st=255#entry2770424

I think I must be confused, because I remembered that my revulsion and disgust for that <unprintable> prevented me from signing up at this site when I first found it a long time ago.  But he is not in the member list, so maybe he is at some similar site?

Anyway, his rank title at the board linked above is "government agent" and the person who is arguing with him has the title "conspiracy theorist" - I guess they just assign them based on post count, not on any assessment of their posts.

[Drewid]

Liquid helium?!

Its density ranges from 0.125 to 0.145 so people would have a very hard time floating in it. Even if they weren't frozen solid.

Not just liquid helium, superfluid helium.  I can't remember why he though superfluid would work, but being a gnats whisker above absolute zero is going to get a bit nippy for sure.

[Drewid]

I have read of a queer case of a man who, though stereoblind up to that point, went to see a 3D movie, and, somehow, something clicked in his brain and he suddenly could see in 3D.
As an aspiring artist, I find actually seeing in 3D can be a pain as it hinders my ability to replicate the true shape of the lines of things skewed by perspective. My brain insists a square in perspective is square, even though the 2D projected shape on my retina is tetrahedral. However, I can close one eye and that helps.

Wowser, I must try a few more trips to the pictures.

[twik]

I have read of a queer case of a man who, though stereoblind up to that point, went to see a 3D movie, and, somehow, something clicked in his brain and he suddenly could see in 3D.

Weird - it must have been like looking at one of those stereo puzzle pictures, only to have things finally come together.

[ka9q]

Ever see "Chasing Amy"?

edit: Oops, make that "Mallrats". I knew it was one of the Kevin Smith movies.

[raven]

Weird - it must have been like looking at one of those stereo puzzle pictures, only to have things finally come together.

That actually happened to me just a couple months ago. I had been trying to see those darn things for years, decades, even and . . . suddenly, I got it. By Jove I think I got it!
I think it was because it was late at night, so late it was early, and my eyes were feeling glazed and fixed, staring straight  ahead, but, whatever the reason, I finally 'got' an autostereogram.

[twik]

Yes, it's a strange "why couldn't I have seen that before?" sort of feeling once your eyes focus in that certain way.

Then I get the optical illusion ones that start flipping between "box is facing outwards" and "box is facing inwards". To tie that to the Moon Hoax Theory, it's a common phenomenon when looking at photos of craters. I wonder if monovisioned people understand why it confuses others?

[ka9q]

The inside-out crater illusion is common when the sun is coming from the bottom of the photograph. Try rotating the photograph upside down so the illumination is from the top and the crater should look normal. Then try to maintain that view when you rotate the photograph back to its original orientation.

[smartcooky]

Try this one. Its a stereo-pair image of Comet Wild2 taken in 2004 by the Stardust mission



If you have never done one of these before, the trick is to get your face about an arms-length away from the screen, and look at the image cross-eyed, allowing the images to overlap the right end of the double image in one eye with the left end of the other image through the other eye.  If you relax your eye-relief, the images will "lock-in" and you'll see three images; the centre one will be in 3D.

When I do this one, initially it works fine, then all of a sudden, it goes inverted, and rather than seeing a solid shape, I see a bowl with terrain inside. The shadow in the double crater just right of centre, rather than appearing to be cast by the left rim of the crater appears to be cast by the bright area to its right, which becomes like a plateau.

I'd be interested to know if anyone else has the same experience with this that I do.

[ChrLz]

I tink whoever created that image screwed up..

Try this one, where I've swapped the two images over, L-R.

Added - BTW, I suspect they still got the angles a bit wrong - there seems to be over-exaggerated depth - hurts my eyes!  (I do these sort of stereograms myself (on normal terrestrial topics), and if you get the angle/spacing wrong with your originals, they can look quite weird and just not work..