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Offline raven

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Re: Oh lord show me the truth....
« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2014, 09:57:37 PM »
Eh,  I grew up in a YEC Christian family, and while there was definitely elements of the first, the latter two were certainly not the case.

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Re: Oh lord show me the truth....
« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2014, 11:51:27 PM »
Eh,  I grew up in a YEC Christian family, and while there was definitely elements of the first, the latter two were certainly not the case.

Well, Walt Brown's "Hydro-Plate theory" has to be one of the most stupid YEC theories ever conceived. The level of stupid in his rantings is breathtaking.

Here, though is my favourite youtube debunker... Wildwoodclaire, taking the mickey out of Walt Brown's preposterous ideas.



PS: How do you embed a youtube video here. I have tried various different ways, I cannot seem to get it to work. the BBCode button  enclosing the URL does not work.
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If you're not a scientist but you think you've destroyed the foundation of a vast scientific edifice with 10 minutes of Googling, you might want to consider the possibility that you're wrong.

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Re: Oh lord show me the truth....
« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2014, 03:22:50 AM »
It would be pretty hard to deny that the earth's plates are moving inasmuch as you can actually see them moving with GPS even when there isn't a major earthquake going on. But I wouldn't put it past the young-earth creationists. They deny radioactive decay even when you can watch and time that too.

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Re: Oh lord show me the truth....
« Reply #18 on: April 30, 2014, 05:41:26 AM »
Oh dear. I read the introduction. That was enough.

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Re: Oh lord show me the truth....
« Reply #19 on: April 30, 2014, 06:43:41 AM »
Like this...


The problem is the S after the http - get rid of it....  I'm not sure what it is that makes some links Secure but not others..

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Re: Oh lord show me the truth....
« Reply #20 on: April 30, 2014, 10:54:41 AM »
It would be pretty hard to deny that the earth's plates are moving inasmuch as you can actually see them moving with GPS even when there isn't a major earthquake going on. But I wouldn't put it past the young-earth creationists. They deny radioactive decay even when you can watch and time that too.


An expanding Earth proponent on BAUT's ATM section, when I still visited BAUT's ATM section, told me they'd never measured subduction.  I told them they had, in fact, and were in the process of doing it a few hundred miles from my apartment.  I forget exactly why I was wrong about that one, but he was sure I was.
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Re: Oh lord show me the truth....
« Reply #21 on: April 30, 2014, 11:22:18 AM »
YEC  = Young Earth Creationist.  A pretty safe bet for BS.
Maybe superficially, but given that he has outright lied in his videos, I think he just does this for the money, ironically making him a true shill.
I suspect BS's beliefs are sincere at the time he says them for the purpose for which he holds them.  It is just that his purposes are different from yours and mine.  His overall behavior suggests to me that he live his life at crossed purposes. 
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Re: Oh lord show me the truth....
« Reply #22 on: April 30, 2014, 08:17:16 PM »
I suspect BS's beliefs are sincere at the time he says them for the purpose for which he holds them.  It is just that his purposes are different from yours and mine.  His overall behavior suggests to me that he live his life at crossed purposes. 

It is perfectly possible for people to have sincerely held beliefs which contain a level of stupid that is simply beyond all reason, e.g. flat-earthers and no-planers!


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ChrLz. Thanks for the info regards youtube embedding. That will be why I have been able to get to to work sometimes and not other times
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Re: Oh lord show me the truth....
« Reply #23 on: May 01, 2014, 05:02:41 AM »
The problem is the S after the http - get rid of it....  I'm not sure what it is that makes some links Secure but not others..
The S stands for Secure. Without it, your browser connects to the standard HTTP port (80) on the server and fetches the object in the clear. The https prefix tells your browser to connect to a different server TCP port (443), perform a SSL (Secure Sockets Library) handshake, and fetch the object using SSL to encrypt it.

Many web servers support both unencrypted (http) and encrypted (https) connections, but not all. Some web servers don't listen on port 443 at all, so you'll get "connection refused" or something similar. Other web servers (like mine) do listen on 443 but aren't properly set up for every domain name that they happen to serve unless the site owner explicitly pays for that feature. The result can be weird errors, hangs, 404 (not found) errors, etc.

It's a good idea to use https whenever possible just on principle, to make it that much harder for the NSA and other black agencies to vacuum-cleaner the entire web. But if it doesn't work, just change https to http.
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Re: Oh lord show me the truth....
« Reply #24 on: May 02, 2014, 04:22:27 PM »
In one of the little... uh... commentaries on his site "Brother Bart" says:

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I receive a small social security check monthly, on the first of each month, by direct deposit.

I can't help but wonder whether he's considered mentally disabled.

Also, if he's really a "theology student" as he claims, I have to wonder if he was absent the day they taught the concept of going to hell for malicious lying.
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Re: Oh lord show me the truth....
« Reply #25 on: May 02, 2014, 04:27:19 PM »
In one of the little... uh... commentaries on his site "Brother Bart" says:

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I receive a small social security check monthly, on the first of each month, by direct deposit.

I can't help but wonder whether he's considered mentally disabled.

Also, if he's really a "theology student" as he claims, I have to wonder if he was absent the day they taught the concept of going to hell for malicious lying.
He lied about being sick that day. :P

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Re: Oh lord show me the truth....
« Reply #26 on: May 02, 2014, 04:50:14 PM »
I thought Walt Brown's cracked-crust hydroplate flood theory sounded familiar.  Sure enough, back in 1965 there was a movie called Crack In The World that had a similar premise, where a scientist sets off a thermonuclear device in/near the Earth's magma layer, causing a crack that rapidly encircles the globe and "threatens to split the Earth in two".

Actually not a bad movie, and certainly more entertaining than listening to Walt Brown.

Trailer:

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Re: Oh lord show me the truth....
« Reply #27 on: May 03, 2014, 12:57:22 PM »
In one of the little... uh... commentaries on his site "Brother Bart" says:

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I receive a small social security check monthly, on the first of each month, by direct deposit.

I can't help but wonder whether he's considered mentally disabled.

I also receive a small social security check monthly, on the first of each month, by direct deposit. That's simply the payee's choice of payment options. It need not have anything to do with mental disability.

It's everything else he does and says that leaves me wondering.
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Re: Oh lord show me the truth....
« Reply #28 on: May 04, 2014, 12:02:57 AM »
Ah yes, "Crack in the World". I remember seeing that one on TV not long after it came out. Even then it seemed pretty damn hokey. I certainly don't lie awake at night worrying about geothermal power.

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Re: Oh lord show me the truth....
« Reply #29 on: May 06, 2014, 12:10:06 PM »
In one of the little... uh... commentaries on his site "Brother Bart" says:

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I receive a small social security check monthly, on the first of each month, by direct deposit.

I can't help but wonder whether he's considered mentally disabled.

I also receive a small social security check monthly, on the first of each month, by direct deposit. That's simply the payee's choice of payment options. It need not have anything to do with mental disability.

It's everything else he does and says that leaves me wondering.

I believe you missed my point. I also receive an SSA check monthly by direct deposit. In my case, it's because of a physical disability.

My comment was intended to refer to the reason for Sibrel's stipend.  He doesn't appear to be physically disabled (although such a disability is not always obvious), nor is he in the right age range(s) for survivor's or retirement benefits.

So I was speculating (in a tongue-in-cheek way) that he has qualified as mentally disabled.

 
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