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Offline DAKDAK

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Re: I don’t know if man went to the moon in the sixties
« Reply #60 on: May 05, 2012, 03:13:30 AM »
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Dak, what makes you think you can simply ignore the problems and errors already pointed out to you, and move on?

I am not moving on the number #1 reason I think that the record of the Apollo missions was fabricated is that all the items that supposedly came back from the moon would not fit in the space that was available. like I said in the subject I dint know if man went to the moon in the sixties or not,but the official record of Apollo is obviously NOT TRUE

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Re: I don’t know if man went to the moon in the sixties
« Reply #61 on: May 05, 2012, 03:16:30 AM »
That was the habitable volume, i.e. the volume available for the astronauts to move around. The CM was 12.8' in diameter and 11.4' in height. A simple cone of those dimensions has a volume of about 490 cubic feet.

I am still coming up ith 210 cubic feet not 490 Maybe you should check your math


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Re: I don’t know if man went to the moon in the sixties
« Reply #62 on: May 05, 2012, 03:26:44 AM »
So scientific knowledge develops after years of research. That's normal. It's how our understanding develops. The moon is not considered a 'wet' place by any means. The water that has been found is bound into the rocks, not sitting around making everything wet. There is a large amount of water in most of the food you eat, but i doubt you'd consider biscuits or crisps 'wet' would you?

Do you hear yourself water bound in rocks??
That is just more of the same old song and dances in my opinion The moon is a type of water tank and fills up every month,by some form of snow.
The brilliant scientist in the sixties did not notice this then and it took 50 years and dozens of supposedly maned and unmanned missions to figure this out
And of course food is wet maybe not biscuits or crisps but maybe stew or soup


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Re: I don’t know if man went to the moon in the sixties
« Reply #63 on: May 05, 2012, 03:39:09 AM »
The Moon does not emit light; it reflects it just as does the Earth.  The solar influx is a well-known value.  The Moon's geometric albedo is measurable from Earth, as is the same value for various places on Earth.  The Moon's albedo varies from 4-12 percent on the maria to 20-25 percent in the highlands.  This is generally dimmer than Earth's albedo variance, so your argument holds to the effect that we should be more blinded on Earth that if we were on the Moon.

 I do not agree you see the moon unlike the earth does Emmit lot and lots oflight when The  moon is full. Albedo is not measured by percent Actually the lower the albedo the more light is being emitted I attached a real picture of the moon it is definitely emitting light


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Re: I don’t know if man went to the moon in the sixties
« Reply #64 on: May 05, 2012, 03:55:32 AM »
That was the habitable volume, i.e. the volume available for the astronauts to move around. The CM was 12.8' in diameter and 11.4' in height. A simple cone of those dimensions has a volume of about 490 cubic feet.

I am still coming up ith 210 cubic feet not 490 Maybe you should check your math
Could you please quote the message you are replying to, at the moment your posts are potentially confusing. Unless of course that is your intention.

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Re: I don’t know if man went to the moon in the sixties
« Reply #65 on: May 05, 2012, 04:09:37 AM »
That was the habitable volume, i.e. the volume available for the astronauts to move around. The CM was 12.8' in diameter and 11.4' in height. A simple cone of those dimensions has a volume of about 490 cubic feet.

I am still coming up ith 210 cubic feet not 490 Maybe you should check your math

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=cone+12.8%27+diameter+11.4%27+in+height
volume 489 ft^3
Perhaps you might like to show your work instead.

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Re: I don’t know if man went to the moon in the sixties
« Reply #66 on: May 05, 2012, 05:33:34 AM »
Why do hoax believers always seem to rely on Youtube videos, rather than sitting down, thinking through what they want to investigate and working it out. Then, if they don't understand something, they could either research it, or ask a SENSIBLE question. Then again, I suppose that if they did that,  they wouldn't be HBs.

I don't understand the reference to the parachutes. Yes, they are big (wouldn't be much use if they weren't!), but the material from which they are constructed is THIN. Each 'chute had a surface area of about .5 acre, and there was 1.5 miles of suspension cords per 'chute.  Parachutes pack up into small dimensions (or are skydivers also the figment of a government conspiracy?). The Apollo 'chutes were packed using hydraulic rams, and when packed had the density of maple wood. When they were packed they were not contained in the habitable space.

DakDak: Have a read of this document: http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19730062665_1973062665.pdf

When you've read it and digested it, then perhaps you might care to point out any "anomalies" that you find?
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Re: I don’t know if man went to the moon in the sixties
« Reply #67 on: May 05, 2012, 05:48:30 AM »
Why do hoax believers always seem to rely on Youtube videos, rather than sitting down, thinking through what they want to investigate and working it out. Then, if they don't understand something, they could either research it, or ask a SENSIBLE question. Then again, I suppose that if they did that,  they wouldn't be HBs.
As the video in question has a view count in single figures, I suspect it may have been produced by the OP.

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Re: I don’t know if man went to the moon in the sixties
« Reply #68 on: May 05, 2012, 05:53:43 AM »
I do not agree you see the moon unlike the earth does Emmit lot and lots oflight when The  moon is full.
No, it does not emit light, it reflects sunlight. Earth reflects sunlight a lot better than the moon.
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Albedo is not measured by percent
It's presented as a fraction, or a percent. The same way as you can say that the probability of getting heads when flipping a coin is 50 %, or 0.50.
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Actually the lower the albedo the more light is being emitted
No, albedo does not measure emitted light. What's your source for this claim?
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I attached a real picture of the moon it is definitely emitting light
No, it's reflecting sunlight. What process would make the moon to emit light?

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Re: I don’t know if man went to the moon in the sixties
« Reply #69 on: May 05, 2012, 06:07:37 AM »

 I do not agree you see the moon unlike the earth does Emmit lot and lots oflight when The  moon is full. Albedo is not measured by percent Actually the lower the albedo the more light is being emitted I attached a real picture of the moon it is definitely emitting light

The Moon does not emit light...it only reflects it. The image that you attached is interesting, as it shows "Earthshine". The brighter part of the image is sunlight being reflected off the Moon's surface towards Earth. The dimmer portion of the Lunar surface is illuminated by Earthshine, that is, sunlight being reflected off the Earth to the Moon and the same light being reflected back to Earth.

As to the Moon being too bright to work on, well that is ridiculous. For one, the landings took place in the early Lunar morning. Secondly, the astronauts wore a piece of equipment called the LEVA (Lunar Extra Vehicular Assembly) which had sunscreens and gold-plated visors to allow the astronaut to work in bright sunlight.

It's ironic that another HB recently claimed that the moon landings were faked as there were no images of the astronauts on the moon with their visors up (a claim that was roundly debunked on here).  Now you are hear saying that the Moon landings were faked because the surface was too bright to work on. I do wish that the HB community would at least agree on one story.....
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Re: I don’t know if man went to the moon in the sixties
« Reply #70 on: May 05, 2012, 06:58:55 AM »
... I attached a real picture of the moon it is definitely emitting light

Reflecting light.
The bright over exposed area is where sunlight is being reflected, the far darker area is lit by reflected earthshine.

Albedo is not measured by percent

From wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albedo
"It is defined as the ratio of reflected radiation from the surface to incident radiation upon it. Being a dimensionless fraction, it may also be expressed as a percentage"

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Re: I don’t know if man went to the moon in the sixties
« Reply #71 on: May 05, 2012, 07:25:21 AM »
I'm sorry DAKDAK but you are so very very wrong. I suggest you sink your teeth into this website. Who knows, you might learn something...

http://www.revisionism.nl/Moon/The-Mad-Revisionist.htm

I'm convinced after just reading the main page.
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Re: I don’t know if man went to the moon in the sixties
« Reply #72 on: May 05, 2012, 09:06:23 AM »
DAKDAK, please address your errors which I pointed out in this post.

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Re: I don’t know if man went to the moon in the sixties
« Reply #73 on: May 05, 2012, 09:35:48 AM »
Do you hear yourself water bound in rocks??
That is just more of the same old song and dances in my opinion The moon is a type of water tank and fills up every month,by some form of snow.
DAKDAK, are you trolling?  Because this is so patently ridiculous it sounds like you are pulling our legs.
The brilliant scientist in the sixties did not notice this then and it took 50 years and dozens of supposedly maned and unmanned missions to figure this out
Factually incorrect.  The Moon has not been "figure[d] out" to be a "water tank" by scientists.  It is currently understood to be a rocky, virtually airless body which has some water ice (deposited by comets) at some polar areas which never receive sunlight.

Your understanding of the Moon's character is completely contrary to scientific consensus.  What does that tell you about your claims?

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Re: I don’t know if man went to the moon in the sixties
« Reply #74 on: May 05, 2012, 09:42:50 AM »
I do not agree you see the moon unlike the earth does Emmit lot and lots oflight when The  moon is full.
Wrong.  The Moon reflects a lot of light when full.  Emitting light means it would glow by itself.
Albedo is not measured by percent
Wrong.
Actually the lower the albedo the more light is being emitted
Wrong.  Exactly backwards, in fact.
I attached a real picture of the moon it is definitely emitting light
No.  The lunar limb (the thin crescent) is reflecting light from the Sun.  The rest of the Moon is reflecting light from the Earth, which at this point would appear nearly full as seen from the Moon, and is itself reflecting light from the Sun.

Maybe there's a language issue here?  "Emit" means generating light on its own, like the Sun or a searchlight.  It specifically does not refer to reflecting light generated by another object.  Thus, the Moon (and the Earth) does not "emit" visible light.

Also, please address your errors which I discussed in post 1353.