How many cubic feet were in the Apollo Command module

[Not Myself]

Sadly, it's entirely possible that 3/4 of what he was told about space in school was wrong, with no conspiracy needed - just a poor science curriculum.

He said 75% of what he learned.  It's possible that that was different than what he was told.

I can think of quite a few occasions, both in classroom and in independent research settings, when students have "learned" some quite remarkable things!

[DAKDAK]

SpaceyChick has photos of all the manned capsule plus some.

I've only seen three of them - 11, 15 and 16.

DAKDAK, here's another quick check you can do to demonstrate that 210 ft3 is not the total volume.  The cube root of 210 is 5.94.  Therefore, 210 ft3 is the volume occupied by a cube that is roughly 6' X 6' X 6'.  When you look at the photos linked to above, the CM is clearly quite a bit larger than a cube with those dimensions.

Here is a clip of Aaron Cohen who supposedly was the Manager of the Command module for NASA at the time stating that the CM was about a 6X6X6 CUBE since you don't believe the Smithsonian that currently has possesion of the CM maybe the boss of the design team might help

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[Chew]

SpaceyChick has photos of all the manned capsule plus some.

I've only seen three of them - 11, 15 and 16.

DAKDAK, here's another quick check you can do to demonstrate that 210 ft³ is not the total volume.  The cube root of 210 is 5.94.  Therefore, 210 ft³ is the volume occupied by a cube that is roughly 6' X 6' X 6'.  When you look at the photos linked to above, the CM is clearly quite a bit larger than a cube with those dimensions.

Here is a clip of Aaron Cohen who supposedly was the Manager of the Command module for NASA at the time stating that the CM was about a 6X6X6 CUBE since you don't believe the Smithsonian that currently has possesion of the CM maybe the boss of the design team might help

"it's about a 6 x 6 x 6 cube. That's what you're living in."

"living in". Do you not understand what that means? "living in". As in that is the habitable volume.

How much longer are you going to keep up this idiotic bullshit?

Does this look the same size as a 6' x 6' x 6' cube?

[raven]

Welcome back, DAKDAK. It's not that we disagree with the Smithsonian, or Mr. Cohen, but rather we disagree with you as to what is being measured.

[Jason Thompson]

Here is a clip of Aaron Cohen who supposedly was the Manager of the Command module for NASA at the time stating that the CM was about a 6X6X6 CUBE since you don't believe the Smithsonian that currently has possesion of the CM maybe the boss of the design team might help

He said you are living in the space of a 6 x 6 x 6 cube. What is the volume of a 6 x 6 x 6 cube? 216 cubic feet. Pretty close to the 210 cubic feet given in every source as the habitable volume of the command module.

We are not disputing that the habitable volume is 210 cubic feet, but your interpretation that the entire volume was 210 cubic feet. Why is it you cannot grasp the very basic difference between them? You've had it explained to you in words and pictures several times over that the cabin, with a habitable volume of 210 cubic feet, was an internal structure that sat inside the overall conical structure. The volume taken up by the entire command module was on the order of 400 cubic feet; the volume taken up by the whole of the cabin structure was about 300 cubic feet; and the internal volume of the cabin structure, less the stowage and equipment spaces that could not be occupied by crewmen, was about 210 cubic feet. What is so difficult about this arrangement that you just won't get it through your head?

[carpediem]

Here is a clip of Aaron Cohen who supposedly was the Manager of the Command module for NASA at the time stating that the CM was about a 6X6X6 CUBE since you don't believe the Smithsonian that currently has possesion of the CM maybe the boss of the design team might help

[Zakalwe]

You've had it explained to you in words and pictures several times over that the cabin,

What is so difficult about this arrangement that you just won't get it through your head?

Maybe the words used contain too many syllables?

We might need to try finger-painting next....

[sts60]

Here is a clip of Aaron Cohen who supposedly was the Manager of the Command module for NASA at the time stating that the CM was about a 6X6X6 CUBE since you don't believe the Smithsonian that currently has possesion of the CM maybe the boss of the design team might help

First, don't try to play the name game with me; I used to work for Max Faget and C.C. Johnson.

Second, he did not say the CM itself was "about a 6X6X6 CUBE".

Finally, I have inspected Columbia personally at the Air & Space Museum.  It is not " about a 6X6X6 CUBE".

You are simply and unambiguously wrong.

DAKDAK, are you just trolling?  If not, please explain why you seem unable to concede such a simple error?   And when are you going to give an account for the numerous other mistakes you have made which have been corrected here?  Such as your laughable claim that the Moon "fills up" with water from the Earth?

And, again, are you just trolling?

[Chew]

There's something incredibly pathetic about a man who whines about other people being too educated when he can't figure out of the volume of a cone.

[Bob B.]

SpaceyChick has photos of all the manned capsule plus some.

I've only seen three of them - 11, 15 and 16.

DAKDAK, here's another quick check you can do to demonstrate that 210 ft³ is not the total volume.  The cube root of 210 is 5.94.  Therefore, 210 ft³ is the volume occupied by a cube that is roughly 6' X 6' X 6'.  When you look at the photos linked to above, the CM is clearly quite a bit larger than a cube with those dimensions.

Here is a clip of Aaron Cohen who supposedly was the Manager of the Command module for NASA at the time stating that the CM was about a 6X6X6 CUBE since you don't believe the Smithsonian that currently has possesion of the CM maybe the boss of the design team might help

DAKDAK, can you be anymore obtuse?  The man in the video says the exact same thing that I did, that is, the living space of the CM is equivalent to a 6X6X6 cube.

[JayUtah]

Here is a clip of Aaron Cohen who supposedly was the Manager of the Command module...

I agree; don't drop names.  I was taught my trade by the people who worked on this spacecraft.  We're closer to the original sources than you.

...stating that the CM was about a 6X6X6 CUBE

He states the volume of the crew compartment was this value.  You seem unable to distinguish habitable volume from total volume even after it has been explained to you in half a dozen different ways.  At one point you praised the skill and credentials of the people here.  Now would be a good time for you to admit that you simply don't have the math and geometry background to understand what's going on.

since you don't believe the Smithsonian that currently has possesion of the CM...

First, there is more than one CM.  In fact, the NASM possesses more than one CM.

Second, no one is disputing the Smithsonian's claim.  We are disputing your interpretation of what that cited number means.  You are patently incapable of understanding the difference, and that's the problem -- not some farfetched claim that the CM was somehow too small.

maybe the boss of the design team might help

Maybe you shouldn't have resigned from your education.  It should be obvious to you now why you needed it.

[ka9q]

Do any of the regulars here have a degree or any kind of training in psychology? How about a student of psychology looking for a dissertation topic? I think someone could earn a well-deserved PhD and make a real contribution to science by making a methodical and comprehensive study of the conspiracy mindset.

I've been following conspiracy theories long enough to see many of the same concepts (and many of the same people) appear over and over. I fear that Apollo deniers and 9/11 "truthers" are merely the more extreme manifestations of a much more widespread problem. Rational public policy in a democratic society requires a well-informed and well-educated electorate, so this phenomenon threatens some very real consequences.

The increasing popularity of conspiracy beliefs is probably due to a combination of things: a failing school system; ready access via the Internet to large audiences of like-minded individuals; a series of bona-fide scandals and conspiracies such as the Vietnam War, Watergate, Iran-Contra and the Iraq invasion that has led to widespread distrust of government institutions; economic pressures; news media, politicians and businesses who exploit all these things for their own purposes; and so on. We could really use a serious, careful analysis.

[DAKDAK]

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[JayUtah]

This picture of the APOLLO 11 command Module with Spacey chick does appear to be 6x6x6 dont you think??

You're looking at the outside volume.  The figures cited are for the habitable volume inside.  You don't seem to care that there is equipment contained in the hull of the CM that is not part of the habitable volume inside.

Further, 6x6x6 is a description of a cube.  Your cited authority used that conceptual cube as an example to visualize how much volume 210 cubic feet would be in familiar terms.  You're looking at a truncated cone in the photos, so the 6x6x6 foot dimensions are simply irrelevant to the visual shape of the command module.

I don't know how much simpler this can be made for you.

[gillianren]

Do any of the regulars here have a degree or any kind of training in psychology? How about a student of psychology looking for a dissertation topic? I think someone could earn a well-deserved PhD and make a real contribution to science by making a methodical and comprehensive study of the conspiracy mindset.

Well, I'm strictly amateur, but I think there's more than one conspiracy mindset.  I can see at least two distinct mental disorders at play aside from the people who are just kind of dumb.