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Offline JayUtah

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Re: Why I suspect Apollo was a hoax.
« Reply #165 on: August 27, 2015, 01:14:01 PM »
It was a few months ago, I believe, when someone pointed out that NASA would likely never allow someone arrested for bomb threats into near any of their facilities.

As capital, critical assets, NASA vacuum test chambers have armed guards.  Further, Baker's experience with law enforcement might provide the world with a different reason why NASA ignores him.
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Re: Why I suspect Apollo was a hoax.
« Reply #166 on: August 27, 2015, 01:16:39 PM »
It would have to be fakeable to more than just me. I expect at least two other independent witnesses on hand. I also expect to be allowed to hook up our own pirani and hot cathode ionization gauges. I'm confident that my level of experience with vacuum systems is sufficient. Personally, I doubt they'll be able to get anywhere near orbital vacuum of ~1e-6 Torr if the sublimator works as they allege. But maybe they have some huge vacuum pumps to compensate for the sublimator sublimating.
Chamber B

Vacuum: 1x10-6 torr

Pumping capacity: 1 x 107 liters/sec condensables and 2 x 105 liters/sec noncondensables at 1 x 10-6 torr pressure; Note: Usual chamber inleakage less then 3 x 105 liters/sec of air at 1 x 10-6 torr pressure

Why can't you find this publicly available basic data yourself?

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Re: Why I suspect Apollo was a hoax.
« Reply #167 on: August 27, 2015, 01:19:50 PM »
It was a few months ago, I believe, when someone pointed out that NASA would likely never allow someone arrested for bomb threats into near any of their facilities.

As capital, critical assets, NASA vacuum test chambers have armed guards.  Further, Baker's experience with law enforcement might provide the world with a different reason why NASA ignores him.

Thanks Jay. I didn't know that but makes sense.

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Re: Why I suspect Apollo was a hoax.
« Reply #168 on: August 27, 2015, 01:22:28 PM »
It was a few months ago, I believe, when someone pointed out that NASA would likely never allow someone arrested for bomb threats into near any of their facilities.

As capital, critical assets, NASA vacuum test chambers have armed guards.  Further, Baker's experience with law enforcement might provide the world with a different reason why NASA ignores him.
If he got close it might be a Red alert.
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Re: Why I suspect Apollo was a hoax.
« Reply #169 on: August 27, 2015, 01:23:06 PM »
Unless we are proposing to add poor reading comprehension to his repertoire of bumbling around the webernets.

Look at his level of attention here and elsewhere he has debated.  I believe he simply doesn't read any of the posts here except to latch onto some tidbit he can use to prolong the debate and increase the attention paid to him.

This is just a Heiwa-clone thread. I am baffled at the behaviour of these people, it happens so often one could be mistaken for thinking it was the same person. Did I miss his explanation for how we obtained the lunar samples?

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Re: Why I suspect Apollo was a hoax.
« Reply #170 on: August 27, 2015, 01:25:54 PM »

This is just a Heiwa-clone thread. I am baffled at the behaviour of these people, it happens so often one could be mistaken for thinking it was the same person. Did I miss his explanation for how we obtained the lunar samples?
In the true tradition of the circular firing squad, all spaceflight is fake, therefore the samples are fake and since the samples are fake all spaceflight is fake.

Or some such nonsense.

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Re: Why I suspect Apollo was a hoax.
« Reply #171 on: August 27, 2015, 01:26:03 PM »

This is just a Heiwa-clone thread. I am baffled at the behaviour of these people, it happens so often one could be mistaken for thinking it was the same person. Did I miss his explanation for how we obtained the lunar samples?
By a convoluted route that the Apollo's PLSS could/did not work, because he doesn't understand how it works.
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Re: Why I suspect Apollo was a hoax.
« Reply #172 on: August 27, 2015, 01:31:14 PM »
It was a few months ago, I believe, when someone pointed out that NASA would likely never allow someone arrested for bomb threats into near any of their facilities.

As capital, critical assets, NASA vacuum test chambers have armed guards.  Further, Baker's experience with law enforcement might provide the world with a different reason why NASA ignores him.
If he got close it might be a Red alert.

Well Neil, maybe it's time to recruit some big guns to help you out. I'm sure Jarrah White would be more then willing to step up to the plate for you and straighten everybody out over here. I suggest you try contacting him and see if he'd be willing to convince NASA about the importance of this test.

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Re: Why I suspect Apollo was a hoax.
« Reply #173 on: August 27, 2015, 01:33:39 PM »

Well Neil, maybe it's time to recruit some big guns to help you out. I'm sure Jarrah White would be more then willing to step up to the plate for you and straighten everybody out over here. I suggest you try contacting him and see if he'd be willing to convince NASA about the importance of this test.
I predict that will rise like a 2m lead balloon.
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Re: Why I suspect Apollo was a hoax.
« Reply #174 on: August 27, 2015, 01:42:43 PM »
I predict that will rise like a 2m lead balloon.

The Mythbusters got that to happen.

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Re: Why I suspect Apollo was a hoax.
« Reply #175 on: August 27, 2015, 01:45:29 PM »
I predict that will rise like a 2m lead balloon.

The Mythbusters got that to happen.
Looked a bit bigger than 2 meters though.
« Last Edit: August 27, 2015, 01:48:28 PM by raven »

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Re: Why I suspect Apollo was a hoax.
« Reply #176 on: August 27, 2015, 01:47:28 PM »
I predict that will rise like a 2m lead balloon.

The Mythbusters got that to happen.
Looked a bit bigger than 2 meters though.

For what it's worth, I might actually be the person responsible for getting them to test that myth.  I submitted the idea to them along with some calculations showing that it was feasibly possible.  About a year later it made it into the show.

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Re: Why I suspect Apollo was a hoax.
« Reply #177 on: August 27, 2015, 01:49:16 PM »
I predict that will rise like a 2m lead balloon.

The Mythbusters got that to happen.
Looked a bit bigger than 2 meters though.

For what it's worth, I might actually be the person responsible for getting them to test that myth.  I submitted the idea to them along with some calculations showing that it was feasibly possible.  About a year later it made it into the show.
That's, really, just really  cool. ;D

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Re: Why I suspect Apollo was a hoax.
« Reply #178 on: August 27, 2015, 01:51:56 PM »
For what it's worth, I might actually be the person responsible for getting them to test that myth.  I submitted the idea to them along with some calculations showing that it was feasibly possible.  About a year later it made it into the show.

Kudos. I don't know what to give you more kudos for, this, or sitting through BlunderWunder's radiation videos.
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Re: Why I suspect Apollo was a hoax.
« Reply #179 on: August 27, 2015, 01:57:35 PM »
A couple years after the original airing of that episode, the Mythbusters did a special in which they revisited some of their prior myths.  Adam said that the lead balloon episode was his all-time favorite.