Author Topic: I really wonder why people still believe we have send men to the moon.  (Read 110830 times)

Offline Tindarormkimcha

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Re: I really wonder why people still believe we have send men to the moon.
« Reply #60 on: September 30, 2015, 02:07:45 PM »
people here look really ****** up if I see how fast postings are posted.



Does say a thing of course, if they go on the defense.


Truth has never to be defended.


Truth is it is all fake.

Offline frenat

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Re: I really wonder why people still believe we have send men to the moon.
« Reply #61 on: September 30, 2015, 02:09:43 PM »
Only for people who are really curious and interested:


Oh Goody!!! More debunked nonsense!


Errrr let's guess. you haven't read the book, right?

have you? Come on know, be integer, real and honest!

I have actually and I KNOW it is nonsense.

Sure,

But you can't explain why of course.

Just stating won't be enough.
State what YOU think is convincing.  It is YOUR claim to prove.

Same with you ,mate!

It seems you even can't do that
YOU brought it up.  attempted shifting of burden of proof noted.

so, you can't.

Noticed.
Still waiting for you to present something you think proves your point.  Hilarious that you're avoiding that.  But expected.
-Reality is not determined by your lack of comprehension.
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Offline Tindarormkimcha

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Re: I really wonder why people still believe we have send men to the moon.
« Reply #62 on: September 30, 2015, 02:10:25 PM »
Only for people who are really curious and interested:


Oh Goody!!! More debunked nonsense!


Errrr let's guess. you haven't read the book, right?

have you? Come on know, be integer, real and honest!

I have actually and I KNOW it is nonsense.

Sure,

But you can't explain why of course.

Just stating won't be enough.
State what YOU think is convincing.  It is YOUR claim to prove.

Same with you ,mate!

It seems you even can't do that
YOU brought it up.  attempted shifting of burden of proof noted.

so, you can't.

Noticed.
Still waiting for you to present something you think proves your point.  Hilarious that you're avoiding that.  But expected.

you are right the whole moon thingie is hilarious! what non sense it all is!

Offline frenat

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Re: I really wonder why people still believe we have send men to the moon.
« Reply #63 on: September 30, 2015, 02:11:36 PM »
Only for people who are really curious and interested:


Oh Goody!!! More debunked nonsense!


Errrr let's guess. you haven't read the book, right?

have you? Come on know, be integer, real and honest!

I have actually and I KNOW it is nonsense.

Sure,

But you can't explain why of course.

Just stating won't be enough.
State what YOU think is convincing.  It is YOUR claim to prove.

Same with you ,mate!

It seems you even can't do that
YOU brought it up.  attempted shifting of burden of proof noted.

so, you can't.

Noticed.
Still waiting for you to present something you think proves your point.  Hilarious that you're avoiding that.  But expected.

you are right the whole moon thingie is hilarious! what non sense it all is!
thanks for proving you can't follow a conversation or present evidence for your assertion.
-Reality is not determined by your lack of comprehension.
 -Never let facts stand in the way of a good conspiracy theory.
 -There are no bad ideas, just great ideas that go horribly wrong.

Offline Mag40

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Re: I really wonder why people still believe we have send men to the moon.
« Reply #64 on: September 30, 2015, 02:21:40 PM »
Truth has never to be defended.

When trolls gather in ignorant assemblage, those who know better feel obliged to help them understand the more simple stuff. Regarding your rock with a "C" on it, watch the following video and report back how you are now better able to see the truth:



ETA: Oh I forgot to put the link in to the space journal picture. I believe one of the current members posted this:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/50536828@N05/4643351218/
« Last Edit: September 30, 2015, 02:23:11 PM by Mag40 »

Offline smartcooky

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Re: I really wonder why people still believe we have send men to the moon.
« Reply #65 on: September 30, 2015, 02:26:01 PM »
I don't need to read the book to find out who built the moon, I KNOW who built it.... it was

ALIENZ I TELLS YA, ALIENZ!!!!!!!!!!!

Just ask my chum Giorgio....



... he has all the answers
If you're not a scientist but you think you've destroyed the foundation of a vast scientific edifice with 10 minutes of Googling, you might want to consider the possibility that you're wrong.

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Re: I really wonder why people still believe we have send men to the moon.
« Reply #66 on: September 30, 2015, 02:34:54 PM »
Truth has never to be defended.

When trolls gather in ignorant assemblage, those who know better feel obliged to help them understand the more simple stuff. Regarding your rock with a "C" on it, watch the following video and report back how you are now better able to see the truth:



ETA: Oh I forgot to put the link in to the space journal picture. I believe one of the current members posted this:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/50536828@N05/4643351218/
This is the origin of the C rock, care to show everyone how smart you are by pointing the Letter C
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a16/AS16-107-17445HR.jpg
And here is the old bulk scans, I don't have a Flickr account but you may look at the link about half way down to
Edit to add Flickr link
https://www.flickr.com/photos/projectapolloarchive/albums/72157658629322108
« Last Edit: September 30, 2015, 02:49:00 PM by bknight »
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Re: I really wonder why people still believe we have send men to the moon.
« Reply #67 on: September 30, 2015, 02:36:31 PM »
people here look really ****** up if I see how fast postings are posted.



Does say a thing of course, if they go on the defense.


Truth has never to be defended.


Truth is it is all fake.

and yet here you are racking up a post count like the good little troll you are.

Suck on this.

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"The other thing about it is, this conspiracy theory, is [that] the truth needs no defense. I don't have to respond to that. I stepped on the surface of the Moon, and I don't really need to defend that, because I know it happened, I know I did."

Eugene Cernan, Oral History   

Offline bknight

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Re: I really wonder why people still believe we have send men to the moon.
« Reply #68 on: September 30, 2015, 02:37:21 PM »
I don't need to read the book to find out who built the moon, I KNOW who built it.... it was

ALIENZ I TELLS YA, ALIENZ!!!!!!!!!!!

Just ask my chum Giorgio....



... he has all the answers
Was this before or after they built the pyramids?
Truth needs no defense.  Nobody can take those footsteps I made on the surface of the moon away from me.
Eugene Cernan

Offline smartcooky

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Re: I really wonder why people still believe we have send men to the moon.
« Reply #69 on: September 30, 2015, 02:39:23 PM »
When trolls gather in ignorant assemblage.....

Makes me wonder if there is a collective term for trolls?

An inanity? An ignorance? A mania? A twaddle, perhaps?

"A twaddle of trolls!!"

Sounds about right!
If you're not a scientist but you think you've destroyed the foundation of a vast scientific edifice with 10 minutes of Googling, you might want to consider the possibility that you're wrong.

Offline Trebor

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Re: I really wonder why people still believe we have send men to the moon.
« Reply #70 on: September 30, 2015, 02:42:16 PM »
When trolls gather in ignorant assemblage.....

Makes me wonder if there is a collective term for trolls?

An inanity? An ignorance? A mania? A twaddle, perhaps?

"A twaddle of trolls!!"

Sounds about right!

How about a "delusion of trolls"?

Offline sts60

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Re: I really wonder why people still believe we have send men to the moon.
« Reply #71 on: September 30, 2015, 03:28:50 PM »
The odds are realy[sic] against the idea the we have sent men to the moon.

"The odds" implies a quantitative claim.  What is your probability figure, and exactly how did you calculate it?

I once believed that fairy tail[sic], but now I am sure it was (and is) one big gigantic hoax.

You have waved your hands about radiation and petrified wood and so on, but all of these topics have been repeatedly examined, in detail, on this board and its predecessors.  You clearly have not examined the Apollo record in any detail.  Why, then, is either your alleged prior belief, or your current disbelief, worthy of any particular attention?

So now I wonder why people still believe in this non-sense,

In my case, it's because I'm an experienced space systems engineer, with a space physics background, have worked with Apollo engineers, and have examined the record in reasonable detail.

while there is no evidence we have ever send[sic] men to the moon!

Good heavens, whatever gave you such a silly idea?  The Apollo program, including its manned and unmanned predecessors, and its scientific and technical legacy, is the most heavily documented engineering program ever.  There is an enormous amount of design, test, and operational information readily available, not to mention science telemetry, lunar samples, peer-reviewed research, imagery, test and flight hardware, and follow-on technical and operational heritage.  You're simply trying to deny things you're not even dimly aware of. 

What are your intentions by starting this thread?  Do you want to just call people names and assert knowledge you don't actually have?  Or would you like to actually learn something?  If the former, you may provoke people into retaliating, but you can't bluff your way here.  If the latter, you will find a number of knowledgeable people willing to help you. 

Which would you rather do?  Strut and pose, or learn something?

Offline Tedward

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Re: I really wonder why people still believe we have send men to the moon.
« Reply #72 on: September 30, 2015, 03:36:38 PM »
Someone else with a wooden spoon and time to kill.

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Re: I really wonder why people still believe we have send men to the moon.
« Reply #73 on: September 30, 2015, 04:52:10 PM »
I sense we won't get very far with this one.

Rapid posting invective. Summarily dismissing everything any evidence as fake as a starting point, which I'm sure has a word in logic.
And now a sort of we're in the matrix type conspiracy theories.

Plus I don't think the f bomb is allowed here.

Offline Rob260259

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Re: I really wonder why people still believe we have send men to the moon.
« Reply #74 on: September 30, 2015, 05:13:35 PM »
The odds are realy against the idea the we have sent men to the moon.

I once believed that fairy tail, but now I am sure it was (and is) one big gigantic hoax.


So now I wonder why people still believe in this non-sense, while there is no evidence we have ever

send men to the moon!

Here we go again. Wow. Just. Wow.
Two generations of wannabe conspiracy theorists have failed to present one single piece of evidence indicating fakery on the part of NASA. ALL of their arguments have failed and some of their claims are hilariously stupid.
Nixon's Watergate...uncovered within weeks, he was gone in under 2 years.
Iraq...no evidence of WMD or Saddam's collusion with Al Quaeda, discovered in days. Moon hoax? No evidence after 40 years.

If a soldier with the rank of private can leak documents about US government covert operations then someone in NASA or at one of the subcontractors would have revealed something over a 40 year period if there had been a hoax.
No conspiracy that I know of was ever exposed by some amateur conspiracy theorist, (ie. the likes of Kaysing, René, Sibrel, Percy, Jarrah, etc). And when real evidence of a conspiracy is discovered by a legitimate source, it is picked up by the major news services immediately. If there was ANY credible evidence that the moon landings were faked, it would make worldwide headlines within hours.

Why do people, like many hoaxers, feel the need to lie to make their case? Why do they pretend to be engineers or scientists? Why do they take information out of context to make it look like it supports them? Why do they keep making the same fantasy claims even after they have been debunked? Why are they so delusional, ignorant and dishonest?