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Offline Tindarormkimcha

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The odds are realy against the idea the we have sent men to the moon.

I once believed that fairy tail, but now I am sure it was (and is) one big gigantic hoax.


So now I wonder why people still believe in this non-sense, while there is no evidence we have ever

send men to the moon!





Offline bknight

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Re: I really wonder why people still believe we have send men to the moon.
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2015, 01:00:25 PM »
The odds are realy against the idea the we have sent men to the moon.

I once believed that fairy tail, but now I am sure it was (and is) one big gigantic hoax.


So now I wonder why people still believe in this non-sense, while there is no evidence we have ever

send men to the moon!
There are literally tons of paper evidence, along with pounds of lunar rock.  What part of any do you have a problem with?
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Re: I really wonder why people still believe we have send men to the moon.
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2015, 01:03:47 PM »
The odds are realy against the idea the we have sent men to the moon.

I once believed that fairy tail, but now I am sure it was (and is) one big gigantic hoax.


So now I wonder why people still believe in this non-sense, while there is no evidence we have ever

send men to the moon!
There are literally tons of paper evidence, along with pounds of lunar rock.  What part of any do you have a problem with?

All of course! There very simply is no evidence. You might BELIEVE there is. but you can't

show any that isn't fake.


and tons of paper evidence? what ? if that is your evidence then the movie "Star Wars" or

"Star Trek" or whatever is true too! It is a ridiculous argument.


And the rocks? Do you mean the 'false'' rocks by any change?


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Re: I really wonder why people still believe we have send men to the moon.
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2015, 01:11:32 PM »

All of course! There very simply is no evidence.

Wrong.

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You might BELIEVE there is. but you can't show any that isn't fake.

Wrong.

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and tons of paper evidence? what ? if that is your evidence then the movie "Star Wars" or

"Star Trek" or whatever is true too! It is a ridiculous argument.

Stupid and wrong.

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And the rocks? Do you mean the 'false'' rocks by any change?

Wrong.

Make a point about something specific instead of spraying a perfectly good forum with your hoax dung. Until then you have nothing but disbelief, a substandard education and a desperate desire for adult attention to sustain your fantasy world. Prove me wrong and provide actual evidence to support whatever claim you think you might be making.

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Re: I really wonder why people still believe we have send men to the moon.
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2015, 01:16:03 PM »

All of course! There very simply is no evidence. You might BELIEVE there is. but you can't

show any that isn't fake.
What proof do you have that they are fake?  Just your stating that you believe they are fake does not in any way prove the  allegation.
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and tons of paper evidence? what ? if that is your evidence then the movie "Star Wars" or

"Star Trek" or whatever is true too! It is a ridiculous argument.
Yes the movies are real your suggestion that images are  in the same reality of those presented by NASA are purely imaginary.  The subject of Apollo is ~240 thousand miles, not across the galaxy.  If you have a problem differentiating the differences look at the enormous distances in the universe.[/quote]


And the rocks? Do you mean the 'false'' rocks by any change?
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What "false" rocks are you referring?
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Re: I really wonder why people still believe we have send men to the moon.
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2015, 01:16:11 PM »
There already is a thread that has collected all your "wisdom". Why not visit that and answer some of the questions that have asked of you, rather than spamming the board with another thread?

The odds are realy against the idea the we have sent men to the moon.
I once believed that fairy tail, but now I am sure it was (and is) one big gigantic hoax.

"Tail"?  I think that you mean "tale".

As for the odds, then I am happy to take your odds.

I once believed that fairy tail, but now I am sure it was (and is) one big gigantic hoax.
Your belief has no bearing on what happened. No-one really cares about your beliefs, to be honest. You will accept that an argument from belief is a pretty poor argument.


So now I wonder why people still believe in this non-sense, while there is no evidence we have ever
Obvious attempt at trolling is, well, obvious.

If you want to debate your beliefs then put up your argument (please not another tedious cut'n'paste of long debunked nonsense from jokes like Jack White). Trolling won't get you too far here.
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Re: I really wonder why people still believe we have send men to the moon.
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2015, 01:22:14 PM »
if you really believe there is no evidence then all I can say is thank you for proving you haven't actually looked.
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Offline Tindarormkimcha

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Re: I really wonder why people still believe we have send men to the moon.
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2015, 01:24:37 PM »

Wrong.

Wow! You just blown my mind! LOL Just stating it is wrong is of course not saying anything at all.

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You might BELIEVE there is. but you can't show any that isn't fake.

Wrong.

Wow! You just blown my mind! LOL Just stating it is wrong is of cours not saying anything at all.

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and tons of paper evidence? what ? if that is your evidence then the movie "Star Wars" or

"Star Trek" or whatever is true too! It is a ridiculous argument.


Stupid and wrong.

Wow! You just blown my mind! LOL Just stating it is wrong is of cours not saying anything at all.
and not explaining why it is stupid of course.

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And the rocks? Do you mean the 'false'' rocks by any change?


Wrong.

Wow! You just blown my mind! LOL Just stating it is wrong is of cours not saying anything at all.


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Make a point about something specific instead of spraying a perfectly good forum with your hoax dung. Until then you have nothing but disbelief, a substandard education and a desperate desire for adult attention to sustain your fantasy world. Prove me wrong and provide actual evidence to support whatever claim you think you might be making.

This is just a stupid Ad Hominem and hence you are not saying anything relevant here.

And good forum? we will see. The proof is in the pudding, girly.

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Re: I really wonder why people still believe we have send men to the moon.
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2015, 01:25:05 PM »
if you really believe there is no evidence then all I can say is thank you for proving you haven't actually looked.


Oh but I have!

Don't be too sure.

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Re: I really wonder why people still believe we have send men to the moon.
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2015, 01:29:26 PM »

Wrong.

Wow! You just blown my mind! LOL Just stating it is wrong is of course not saying anything at all.

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You might BELIEVE there is. but you can't show any that isn't fake.

Wrong.

Wow! You just blown my mind! LOL Just stating it is wrong is of cours not saying anything at all.

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and tons of paper evidence? what ? if that is your evidence then the movie "Star Wars" or

"Star Trek" or whatever is true too! It is a ridiculous argument.


Stupid and wrong.

Wow! You just blown my mind! LOL Just stating it is wrong is of cours not saying anything at all.
and not explaining why it is stupid of course.

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And the rocks? Do you mean the 'false'' rocks by any change?


Wrong.

Wow! You just blown my mind! LOL Just stating it is wrong is of cours not saying anything at all.


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Make a point about something specific instead of spraying a perfectly good forum with your hoax dung. Until then you have nothing but disbelief, a substandard education and a desperate desire for adult attention to sustain your fantasy world. Prove me wrong and provide actual evidence to support whatever claim you think you might be making.

This is just a stupid Ad Hominem and hence you are not saying anything relevant here.

And good forum? we will see. The proof is in the pudding, girly.


You owe me a new irony meter.  You just blew mine up by stating someone else is doing the exact same thing you've done.
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Re: I really wonder why people still believe we have send men to the moon.
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2015, 01:29:47 PM »
What "false" rocks are you referring?


Don't you people do research?

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'Moon rock' in museums is just petrified wood






AMSTERDAM — It's not green cheese, but it might as well be.
The Dutch national museum said Thursday that one of its prized possessions, a rock supposedly brought back from the moon by U.S. astronauts, is just a piece of petrified wood.
Rijksmuseum spokeswoman Xandra van Gelder, who oversaw the investigation that proved the piece was a fake, said the museum will keep it anyway as a curiosity.
"It's a good story, with some questions that are still unanswered," she said. "We can laugh about it."
The museum acquired the rock after the death of former Prime Minister Willem Drees in 1988. Drees received it as a private gift on Oct. 9, 1969, from then-U.S. ambassador J. William Middendorf during a visit by the three Apollo 11 astronauts, part of their "Giant Leap" goodwill tour after the first moon landing.
Middendorf, who lives in Rhode Island, told Dutch broadcaster NOS news that he had gotten it from the U.S. State Department, but couldn't recall the exact details.
"I do remember that (Drees) was very interested in the little piece of stone," the NOS quoted Middendorf as saying. "But that it's not real, I don't know anything about that."
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He could not immediately be reached for comment Thursday.
The U.S. Embassy in the Hague said it was investigating the matter.
The museum had vetted the moon rock with a phone call to NASA, Van Gelder said.
She said the space agency told the museum then that it was possible the Netherlands had received a rock: NASA gave moon rocks to more than 100 countries in the early 1970s, but those were from later missions.
Ancient rock art from around the world"Apparently no one thought to doubt it, since it came from the prime minister's collection," Van Gelder said.
The rock is not usually on display; the museum is primarily known for its paintings and other works of fine art by masters such as Rembrandt.
A jagged fist-size stone with reddish tints, it was mounted and placed above a plaque that said, "With the compliments of the Ambassador of the United States of America ... to commemorate the visit to The Netherlands of the Apollo-11 astronauts." The plaque does not specify that the rock came from the moon's surface.
It was given at the opening of an exhibition on space exploration.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/32581790/ns/technology_and_science-space/t/moon-rock-museum-just-petrified-wood/

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Re: I really wonder why people still believe we have send men to the moon.
« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2015, 01:30:08 PM »
if you really believe there is no evidence then all I can say is thank you for proving you haven't actually looked.


Oh but I have!

Don't be too sure.
And you've presented so much proof too!!   ::)
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Re: I really wonder why people still believe we have send men to the moon.
« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2015, 01:32:21 PM »
What "false" rocks are you referring?


Don't you people do research?

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'Moon rock' in museums is just petrified wood






AMSTERDAM — It's not green cheese, but it might as well be.
The Dutch national museum said Thursday that one of its prized possessions, a rock supposedly brought back from the moon by U.S. astronauts, is just a piece of petrified wood.
Rijksmuseum spokeswoman Xandra van Gelder, who oversaw the investigation that proved the piece was a fake, said the museum will keep it anyway as a curiosity.
"It's a good story, with some questions that are still unanswered," she said. "We can laugh about it."
The museum acquired the rock after the death of former Prime Minister Willem Drees in 1988. Drees received it as a private gift on Oct. 9, 1969, from then-U.S. ambassador J. William Middendorf during a visit by the three Apollo 11 astronauts, part of their "Giant Leap" goodwill tour after the first moon landing.
Middendorf, who lives in Rhode Island, told Dutch broadcaster NOS news that he had gotten it from the U.S. State Department, but couldn't recall the exact details.
"I do remember that (Drees) was very interested in the little piece of stone," the NOS quoted Middendorf as saying. "But that it's not real, I don't know anything about that."
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He could not immediately be reached for comment Thursday.
The U.S. Embassy in the Hague said it was investigating the matter.
The museum had vetted the moon rock with a phone call to NASA, Van Gelder said.
She said the space agency told the museum then that it was possible the Netherlands had received a rock: NASA gave moon rocks to more than 100 countries in the early 1970s, but those were from later missions.
Ancient rock art from around the world"Apparently no one thought to doubt it, since it came from the prime minister's collection," Van Gelder said.
The rock is not usually on display; the museum is primarily known for its paintings and other works of fine art by masters such as Rembrandt.
A jagged fist-size stone with reddish tints, it was mounted and placed above a plaque that said, "With the compliments of the Ambassador of the United States of America ... to commemorate the visit to The Netherlands of the Apollo-11 astronauts." The plaque does not specify that the rock came from the moon's surface.
It was given at the opening of an exhibition on space exploration.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/32581790/ns/technology_and_science-space/t/moon-rock-museum-just-petrified-wood/

Do you?  The rock was not given by NASA.  there is no evidence it was ever claimed to be a Moon rock.  It is far more likely that it was assumed to be one when it was found in the estate of the former Prime Minister after his death. 

Interestingly, no moon rocks were given out that year.  They were never given to private citizens.  and those that were given out looked nothing like that.
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Offline Tindarormkimcha

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Re: I really wonder why people still believe we have send men to the moon.
« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2015, 01:32:51 PM »
Your belief has no bearing on what happened. No-one really cares about your beliefs, to be honest. You will accept that an argument from belief is a pretty poor argument.

I agree here! But most believers who think we have send men to the moon don't get that!



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Obvious attempt at trolling is, well, obvious.


No I am really not, I can promise you that. However, this is just an Ad Hominem again.
If I had agreed with the bullshit that we have send people to the moon  you would never write that.So you are being dishonest.


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