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Offline Philthy

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Heiwa's "challenge"
« on: October 02, 2015, 11:15:03 PM »
Hopefully I've started this in the right spot.

I mostly lurk here, and it's amazing at the group here is so knowledgeable!

Anyways.........I was wondering if anyone kept track of how many times Heiwas so called "challenge" was won?

Thanks.

Phil
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Offline gwiz

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Re: Heiwa's "challenge"
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2015, 05:42:18 AM »
It has never been won for two reasons:

Heiwa is the sole judge

Heiwa doesn't have the prize money.
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Offline Philthy

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Re: Heiwa's "challenge"
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2015, 07:07:22 AM »
Yes, I know that.

I also know that it really, actually has been.

It hasn't been because the "judge" doesn't know what he's judging.

Thanks, though.

Phil
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Offline bknight

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Re: Heiwa's "challenge"
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2015, 08:04:29 AM »
It has never been won for two reasons:

Heiwa is the sole judge

Heiwa doesn't have the prize money.
Yes I have seen a thread somewhere in which he posts to someone that the challenge hasn't been made correctly or perhaps completely.  None the less whether he has the money or not the goal posts will shift sufficiently so that the challenge will never be "accepted".
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Offline Philthy

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Re: Heiwa's "challenge"
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2015, 10:14:58 AM »
I in no way meant an "official" winner. I mean that there actually has been, but Heiwa is too damn dumb to understand that.

I know he doesn't have the money.
I know he doesn't have a clue what he talks about.

I DO know that more than one person has met his "challenge" and then he moved the goalposts.

Thanks anyway.

Phil
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Offline Andromeda

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Re: Heiwa's "challenge"
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2015, 11:09:20 AM »
I doubt it could be added up - so many people have met the conditions of the challenge here and in numerous other places across the web.
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Offline JayUtah

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Re: Heiwa's "challenge"
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2015, 11:31:09 AM »
I won it at least twice.
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Offline bknight

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Re: Heiwa's "challenge"
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2015, 12:09:16 PM »
I won it at least twice.
Of that I'm sure. :)
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Offline Luke Pemberton

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Re: Heiwa's "challenge"
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2015, 12:14:26 PM »
Anyways.........I was wondering if anyone kept track of how many times Heiwas so called "challenge" was won?

Is that the million Euros one?

For reasons discussed by Gwiz, I've more chance of winning the Euro lottery, and I don't play the Euro lottery.
« Last Edit: October 03, 2015, 12:16:23 PM by Luke Pemberton »
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Offline Tedward

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Re: Heiwa's "challenge"
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2015, 12:45:49 PM »
He has a very nice set of castors on the goal posts.

Offline JayUtah

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Re: Heiwa's "challenge"
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2015, 12:47:59 PM »
The fringe is full of such blustery claims.  High-stakes rewards with impossible strings attached, promises to testify under oath in hearings that will never be set.  We're used to such things being easily posed and easily forgotten.  The problem is Heiwa sincerely keeps referring to his unpaid challenges as ongoing proof of the correctness and seriousness of his claims.  He really does think the game he's playing has some sort of probative value.
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Offline BarnabyMoose

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Re: Heiwa's "challenge"
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2015, 12:50:20 PM »
Just out of curiosity, what was this challenge?

Offline JayUtah

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Re: Heiwa's "challenge"
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2015, 12:55:21 PM »
If you can prove any of his claims wrong, he pays you a million euros.  Of course, he gets to be the judge of whether you've proved him wrong or not.  So he just moves the goalposts.
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Offline Valis

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Re: Heiwa's "challenge"
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2015, 12:56:07 PM »
Just out of curiosity, what was this challenge?
Here's a monster thread about it: http://www.apollohoax.net/forum/index.php?topic=269.0

Offline bknight

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Re: Heiwa's "challenge"
« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2015, 01:08:48 PM »
Just out of curiosity, what was this challenge?
Here's a monster thread about it: http://www.apollohoax.net/forum/index.php?topic=269.0
Ancient history to me, but I'll look at it later today.  Same length as Adrian's thread.
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