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[tradosaurus]

Another question that flat earthers can't seem to answer: why does a flight from Frankfurt to Singapore take 12.5 hours, when a flight from Singapore to Frankfurt, flying over the exact same trajectory takes 13.5 hours?

The real question should be why doesn't the flight against the supposed rotation of the earth ( take less than a few hours since the plane would be flying against 1,000 to 700 mph rotation (depending upon what latitude you were at)?

Because the airplane is already carrying the velocity of the earth's rotation.

So you spout the globe earth reason that the atmosphere is carried along with the rotation of the earth but we don't feel insane winds?  Even though the density of air decreases (less mass) as altitude increases supposedly it all rotates the same speed and the higher you go in the atmosphere the faster it must be traveling?  At what altitude does the atmosphere stop moving with the earth?  Sorry but I don't buy this religious tenet of the globe earth universe.

[onebigmonkey]

Science doesn't care what you think.

Ready to admit the article you linked to completely disagrees with our trolling idiocy yet?

[tradosaurus]

I've asked before but you ignored the question. What is "NASA"?

NASA: founded by NAZI's and continuing the NAZI tradition of lies and deception. 
NASA; faking space for over 50 years.   

Is it coincidence that the NASA logo is anagram for SATAN with the red T in middle?  I think not.

[Gazpar]

Another question that flat earthers can't seem to answer: why does a flight from Frankfurt to Singapore take 12.5 hours, when a flight from Singapore to Frankfurt, flying over the exact same trajectory takes 13.5 hours?

The real question should be why doesn't the flight against the supposed rotation of the earth ( take less than a few hours since the plane would be flying against 1,000 to 700 mph rotation (depending upon what latitude you were at)?

Because the airplane is already carrying the velocity of the earth's rotation.

So you spout the globe earth reason that the atmosphere is carried along with the rotation of the earth but we don't feel insane winds?  Even though the density of air decreases (less mass) as altitude increases supposedly it all rotates the same speed and the higher you go in the atmosphere the faster it must be traveling?  At what altitude does the atmosphere stop moving with the earth?  Sorry but I don't buy this religious tenet of the globe earth universe.

You would not feel insane wind if you are moving at the same speed as them. The atmosphere does not stop moving with the earth at any point, it is always moving but from your frame of reference you dont feel it.
Look, the motion of the earth is completely irrevelevant to its shape (with some exceptions in oblateness). For me, this approach Non-sequitor.
The earth can be stationary and  still be an sphere.

[tradosaurus]

Science doesn't care what you think.

Ready to admit the article you linked to completely disagrees with our trolling idiocy yet?

Please stop.  I don't think I handle the use of science or Newtonian physics without getting brainwashed again.

As a Catholic (not part of the Vatican 2 church) I believe in transubstantiation, that the body and blood, soul and divinity of our Lord Jesus Christ truly becomes present at the words of consecration of the priest.  I can't see the change but I believe it and have faith. 
The difference between this belief and the belief in the globe earth universe is I'm not making you pay taxes to fund my religion or indoctrinate school kids. 

[onebigmonkey]

Science doesn't care what you think.

Ready to admit the article you linked to completely disagrees with our trolling idiocy yet?

Please stop.  I don't think I handle the use of science or Newtonian physics without getting brainwashed again.

As a Catholic (not part of the Vatican 2 church) I believe in transubstantiation, that the body and blood, soul and divinity of our Lord Jesus Christ truly becomes present at the words of consecration of the priest.  I can't see the change but I believe it and have faith. 
The difference between this belief and the belief in the globe earth universe is I'm not making you pay taxes to fund my religion or indoctrinate school kids.

I don't give a rat's ass about whatever babbling jibber-jabber you dress up for on Sunday.

I asked you a question - ready to answer it yet?

[tradosaurus]

Another question that flat earthers can't seem to answer: why does a flight from Frankfurt to Singapore take 12.5 hours, when a flight from Singapore to Frankfurt, flying over the exact same trajectory takes 13.5 hours?

The real question should be why doesn't the flight against the supposed rotation of the earth ( take less than a few hours since the plane would be flying against 1,000 to 700 mph rotation (depending upon what latitude you were at)?

Because the airplane is already carrying the velocity of the earth's rotation.

So you spout the globe earth reason that the atmosphere is carried along with the rotation of the earth but we don't feel insane winds?  Even though the density of air decreases (less mass) as altitude increases supposedly it all rotates the same speed and the higher you go in the atmosphere the faster it must be traveling?  At what altitude does the atmosphere stop moving with the earth?  Sorry but I don't buy this religious tenet of the globe earth universe.

You would not feel insane wind if you are moving at the same speed as them. The atmosphere does not stop moving with the earth at any point, it is always moving but from your frame of reference you dont feel it.
Look, the motion of the earth is completely irrevelevant to its shape (with some exceptions in oblateness). For me, this approach Non-sequitor.
The earth can be stationary and  still be an sphere.

Mathematically it cannot based on observational evidence that I mentioned in a previous post. 

[tradosaurus]

Sagan was an atheist with an agenda and either really believed in the globe earth fantasy or intentionally deceived.

This is the point where we all back away slowly and avoid eye contact.

You obviously didn't read the article given how quickly you posted. 
Again, further proving that the globe earth universe is a religious concept.

You haven't answered my question in post
Reply #68 on: January 31, 2016, 08:44:45 PM
Why? Are you afraid to admit your adolescent beliefs are full of nothing more than hot air.

Is this a "When did you stop beating your wife" question?

[JayUtah]

Please stop.  I don't think I handle the use of science or Newtonian physics without getting brainwashed again.

No.  The facts don't care what you think.

As a Catholic (not part of the Vatican 2 church) I believe in...

Good for you.  None of that exempts you from ridicule should you disregard facts that dispute your religion.

[Gazpar]

Another question that flat earthers can't seem to answer: why does a flight from Frankfurt to Singapore take 12.5 hours, when a flight from Singapore to Frankfurt, flying over the exact same trajectory takes 13.5 hours?

The real question should be why doesn't the flight against the supposed rotation of the earth ( take less than a few hours since the plane would be flying against 1,000 to 700 mph rotation (depending upon what latitude you were at)?

Because the airplane is already carrying the velocity of the earth's rotation.

So you spout the globe earth reason that the atmosphere is carried along with the rotation of the earth but we don't feel insane winds?  Even though the density of air decreases (less mass) as altitude increases supposedly it all rotates the same speed and the higher you go in the atmosphere the faster it must be traveling?  At what altitude does the atmosphere stop moving with the earth?  Sorry but I don't buy this religious tenet of the globe earth universe.

You would not feel insane wind if you are moving at the same speed as them. The atmosphere does not stop moving with the earth at any point, it is always moving but from your frame of reference you dont feel it.
Look, the motion of the earth is completely irrevelevant to its shape (with some exceptions in oblateness). For me, this approach Non-sequitor.
The earth can be stationary and  still be an sphere.

Mathematically it cannot based on observational evidence that I mentioned in a previous post. 

I have already explained it. Your pic is wrong.

First off, Your math is wrong because it does not includes some variables.
You forgot about:
1) Your eyes height. Your picture assumes they are at the same height as your toes.
2) Atmospheric refraction: it will rise the image of the buildings to some degrees and it is entirely weather dependant. The skyline has been reported to be seen on days with a particular weather.
3) It assumes the amount the curvature drops is the same as the amount of an object hidden by it. That is not the case.

If the earth was flat, the skyline and the shoreline should be visible but only the skyline is visible on every picture.
Assuming you are looking Chicago from the location you said and that your eyes are 6 ft above the ground, the earth curvature will hide 1470 ft of the object. If we assume our eyes are at the same height as our feet, we get 1674 ft.
Take the Willis Tower height: 1450 ft. To rise the image of the tower from 50 miles, lets say 500 ft, you would need 6 arcminutes of refraction or next to nothing.
If we assume your eyes are 30 ft above the ground, any building will need to be 1200 ft higher to be seen.
You have not given us any meaningful data about your elevation from that location.

Where is the shoreline?

[JayUtah]

Mathematically it cannot based on observational evidence that I mentioned in a previous post.

You were given a list of scientific principles that your analysis disregards.  You provided no answer; you simply said that any who believed in those principles was ipso facto brainwashed.

[tradosaurus]

You dont feel velocity. Travelling at 10 mph is the same as 100mph. The speed of sound is irrelevant if the air is travelling at the same velocity as you.
You are scientifically illiterate of the most basic concepts.

I'm not being mesmerized by your comments.  Now if you waved a magic wand while moving a pocket watch back and forth in front of me then we might have a different outcome. 
Me saying that I don't feel the insane speeds that the globe earth community is spouting is not unscientific.

Yes it is unscientific. You only feel acceleration, not constant velocity.

You probably need to keep up with your globe earth universe tenets.   Although to be fair some pictures show a perfect circle around the Sun but NASA does state that the earth has an elliptical orbit.
Supposedly the earth is revolving around the sun in an elliptical pattern and thereby speeds up (ie. accelerates) when it gets closer to the sun.  Hmmmmm....not feeling it.
http://www.cso.caltech.edu/outreach/log/NIGHT_DAY/elliptical.htm

[Gazpar]

You dont feel velocity. Travelling at 10 mph is the same as 100mph. The speed of sound is irrelevant if the air is travelling at the same velocity as you.
You are scientifically illiterate of the most basic concepts.

I'm not being mesmerized by your comments.  Now if you waved a magic wand while moving a pocket watch back and forth in front of me then we might have a different outcome. 
Me saying that I don't feel the insane speeds that the globe earth community is spouting is not unscientific.

Yes it is unscientific. You only feel acceleration, not constant velocity.

You probably need to keep up with your globe earth universe tenets.   Although to be fair some pictures show a perfect circle around the Sun but NASA does state that the earth has an elliptical orbit.
Supposedly the earth is revolving around the sun in an elliptical pattern and thereby speeds up (ie. accelerates) when it gets closer to the sun.  Hmmmmm....not feeling it.
http://www.cso.caltech.edu/outreach/log/NIGHT_DAY/elliptical.htm

If you are refering to "pear" shaped, you have a misundertanding. The general flattening of the earth is 1/300th because the polar radius is 30 miles larger than the equatorial radius. Look at the earth from 1 million miles away, the amount measured in angular units would be 6 arc seconds. Your eye angular resolution is at max 1 arc minutes so the different is not noticeable from space.

[Zakalwe]

I've asked before but you ignored the question. What is "NASA"?

NASA: founded by NAZI's and continuing the NAZI tradition of lies and deception. 
NASA; faking space for over 50 years.   

Is it coincidence that the NASA logo is anagram for SATAN

Please show any reputable source that shows that NASA was founded by the National Socialist party or withdraw your claim.

NASA is also the same as NAS if you drop the "A". The link to a bunch of hard disks connected to a LAN is as relevant as it is to SATAN. Which is zero.

[bknight]

Why? Are you afraid to admit your adolescent beliefs are full of nothing more than hot air.

I'm wise enough not to validate your adolescent rant.

Not my rant, Jay

Indeed, my apologies.  Original post removed.

(I was shopping for a new laptop in the other window and not paying attention to attributions.)   

NP