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Re: Apollo XIII-inconsistences
« Reply #210 on: October 06, 2015, 07:36:13 PM »
Mongolian next. That'll look interesting.

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Re: Apollo XIII-inconsistences
« Reply #211 on: October 06, 2015, 08:15:56 PM »
Tarkus , tá tú ag dul chun leanúint ar aghaidh chun spout bruscar gan bhunús nó go bhfuil tú ag dul chun retract duit argóintí .

ETA: And if you think I am fluent in Gaelic, you are mistaken. Google translator has its uses for those that are mono-lingual. I just thought Gaelic would be an interesting slant.

I'm not fluent, but I knew the first two words!
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Re: Apollo XIII-inconsistences
« Reply #212 on: October 06, 2015, 10:36:18 PM »
wa' laH ngu' 'ar nuvpu' jIyay'.
Ah, but have you read Hamlet in the Original Klingon?

And the operas are great too.

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Re: Apollo XIII-inconsistences
« Reply #213 on: October 07, 2015, 02:12:43 AM »
wa' laH ngu' 'ar nuvpu' jIyay'.
Ah, but have you read Hamlet in the Original Klingon?

And the operas are great too.

MELOOOTA!

That's gonna irritate the fat Ferengi...

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Re: Apollo XIII-inconsistences
« Reply #214 on: October 07, 2015, 08:23:08 AM »
It ain't over 'till The Nagus sings...

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Re: Apollo XIII-inconsistences
« Reply #215 on: October 07, 2015, 08:35:09 AM »
Shakespeare is expensive in Klingon..  :o

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hamlet-Prince-Denmark-Restored-Klingon/dp/0964434512

Must be something to do with P&P from Kronos. :)
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Re: Apollo XIII-inconsistences
« Reply #216 on: October 07, 2015, 09:30:51 AM »
Tarkus , tá tú ag dul chun leanúint ar aghaidh chun spout bruscar gan bhunús nó go bhfuil tú ag dul chun retract duit argóintí .

ETA: And if you think I am fluent in Gaelic, you are mistaken. Google translator has its uses for those that are mono-lingual. I just thought Gaelic would be an interesting slant.

Technically, since you are addressing Tarkus by name, you need to add a vocative particle, making it "A Tarkus" (similar to English "O Tarkus"). If Tarkus were a Gaelic name, you'd also have to lenit the first letter of the name, and "slenderize" the end, turning it into "A Tharkuis!" and throwing the pronunciation completely out of the ring. However, this is generally not done if the name isn't Gaelic to begin with. This is probably because non-Gaelic people would never answer when called by a Gaelic speaker. "Who is this Vary person you're calling for? My name's Mary!"

This is about all I can remember from my two years of Gaelic night classes.
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Re: Apollo XIII-inconsistences
« Reply #217 on: October 07, 2015, 11:14:33 AM »
Tarkus , tá tú ag dul chun leanúint ar aghaidh chun spout bruscar gan bhunús nó go bhfuil tú ag dul chun retract duit argóintí .

ETA: And if you think I am fluent in Gaelic, you are mistaken. Google translator has its uses for those that are mono-lingual. I just thought Gaelic would be an interesting slant.

Technically, since you are addressing Tarkus by name, you need to add a vocative particle, making it "A Tarkus" (similar to English "O Tarkus"). If Tarkus were a Gaelic name, you'd also have to lenit the first letter of the name, and "slenderize" the end, turning it into "A Tharkuis!" and throwing the pronunciation completely out of the ring. However, this is generally not done if the name isn't Gaelic to begin with. This is probably because non-Gaelic people would never answer when called by a Gaelic speaker. "Who is this Vary person you're calling for? My name's Mary!"

This is about all I can remember from my two years of Gaelic night classes.

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Re: Apollo XIII-inconsistences
« Reply #218 on: October 07, 2015, 11:19:22 AM »
There are times like this that make me happy to be an English speaker.

Try explaining to a new English speaker why the following words are all pronounced differently:

rough
bough
through
trough
dough
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Re: Apollo XIII-inconsistences
« Reply #219 on: October 07, 2015, 11:24:12 AM »
There are times like this that make me happy to be an English speaker.

Try explaining to a new English speaker why the following words are all pronounced differently:

rough
bough
through
trough
dough
Many "rules" that other languages may/may not have.  And then you add in regional slang even confuses the issue more.
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Re: Apollo XIII-inconsistences
« Reply #220 on: October 07, 2015, 12:49:48 PM »


Try explaining to a new English speaker why the following words are all pronounced differently:

rough
bough
through
trough
dough

Americans get a lot of their English pronunciations wrong, being in telecommunications the one that really winds me up is router. It is the word route with an r (root-er) at the end, the way Americans say it, (row-ter) it's an instrument for channelling grooves in wood.
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Re: Apollo XIII-inconsistences
« Reply #221 on: October 07, 2015, 12:59:39 PM »


Try explaining to a new English speaker why the following words are all pronounced differently:

rough
bough
through
trough
dough

Americans get a lot of their English pronunciations wrong, being in telecommunications the one that really winds me up is router. It is the word route with an r (root-er) at the end, the way Americans say it, (row-ter) it's an instrument for channelling grooves in wood.
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Re: Apollo XIII-inconsistences
« Reply #222 on: October 07, 2015, 01:15:32 PM »
Americans get a lot of their English pronunciations wrong, being in telecommunications the one that really winds me up is router. It is the word route with an r (root-er) at the end, the way Americans say it, (row-ter) it's an instrument for channelling grooves in wood.

I saw a very interesting programme by pretentious knob erudite thinker Melvyn Bragg on the English language.

He suggested (not sure if it was his idea or other scholars) that actually American English is closer to the original British English as brought over by the Pilgrim Fathers with their spelling of such words as 'color',' labor' and 'center',  the use of 'z' instead of 's', 'Fall' instead of Autumn and so on. During and after the French revolution, high society on London became infatuated with their new found French aristocrat asylum seekers and adopted more French ways of spelling.


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Re: Apollo XIII-inconsistences
« Reply #223 on: October 07, 2015, 01:19:03 PM »
Americans get a lot of their English pronunciations wrong, being in telecommunications the one that really winds me up is router. It is the word route with an r (root-er) at the end, the way Americans say it, (row-ter) it's an instrument for channelling grooves in wood.

I saw a very interesting programme by pretentious knob erudite thinker Melvyn Bragg on the English language.

He suggested (not sure if it was his idea or other scholars) that actually American English is closer to the original British English as brought over by the Pilgrim Fathers with their spelling of such words as 'color',' labor' and 'center',  the use of 'z' instead of 's', 'Fall' instead of Autumn and so on. During and after the French revolution, high society on London became infatuated with their new found French aristocrat asylum seekers and adopted more French ways of spelling.
Do older books and manuscripts of the same era(1600-1700) indicate this or is it a pipe dream?
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Re: Apollo XIII-inconsistences
« Reply #224 on: October 07, 2015, 01:43:57 PM »


I saw a very interesting programme by pretentious knob erudite thinker Melvyn Bragg on the English language.

He suggested (not sure if it was his idea or other scholars) that actually American English is closer to the original British English as brought over by the Pilgrim Fathers with their spelling of such words as 'color',' labor' and 'center',  the use of 'z' instead of 's', 'Fall' instead of Autumn and so on. During and after the French revolution, high society on London became infatuated with their new found French aristocrat asylum seekers and adopted more French ways of spelling.

Melvyn Bragg and the other one Alan Wicker, what Sundays used to be all about in the UK.. :)
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