Men and dinosaurs

[darren r]

The thing is, people have been actively looking for 'living dinosaurs' for decades, and they've found nothing. The only evidence is dodgy pictures, film and video, and even dodgier eyewitness testimony (eyewitnesses being the least reliable form of evidence, no matter what anyone says).

If these were real animals and still existed, you'd expect to find carcasses, tracks, droppings and, as Luke Pemberton says, a large enough food source to support them.

If they existed until relatively recently (i.e. the Middle Ages) but were now extinct, there'd still be ample evidence beyond the occasional engraving or cave painting.

[Luke Pemberton]

No. She's not lying. Visit Scotland and Loch Ness and you'll understand there have been sightings of large fish that people believe. It's just that the explanation for their sightings can be explained by migratory sturgeon or prey seeking catfish. Now, are you going to ignore the food chain analysis of the biologists that have studied the Loch? There simply is not enough food to sustain a monster and its offspring. Please address the foodchain analysis and how this supports your monster theory.

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[bknight]

No. She's not lying. Visit Scotland and Loch Ness and you'll understand there have been sightings of large fish that people believe. It's just that the explanation for their sightings can be explained by migratory sturgeon or prey seeking catfish. Now, are you going to ignore the food chain analysis of the biologists that have studied the Loch? There simply is not enough food to sustain a monster and its offspring. Please address the foodchain analysis and how this supports your monster theory.

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I hope you are not texting and DRIVING

[gillianren]

There is also a world of difference between the original claim and the coelocanth. Humans and coelocanths each live in parts of the world that are hostile to the other. The original claim is about humans not only living at the same time as dinosaurs but actually co-existing to the point of humans and dinosaurs encountering each other regularly. Under those circumstances we would expect to see a lot more evidence of dinosaur/human coexistence than a few mythical representations and anecdotes of 'dragons and beasts'.

Maybe he will understand this better than what I have posted.  Goalpost shifting to meet the CT's perspective is.

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She.  And if you find a way to get her to listen to opposing opinions, I'd be very interested in finding out what it is.  No one else has ever managed.

[bknight]

She.  And if you find a way to get her to listen to opposing opinions, I'd be very interested in finding out what it is.  No one else has ever managed.

My bad totally labeling her as masculine and I didn't know of her.  As you may read the task is happening as you indicated.  Moving the goalposts, throwing in other material not associated with the OP.

[LionKing]

There is also a world of difference between the original claim and the coelocanth. Humans and coelocanths each live in parts of the world that are hostile to the other. The original claim is about humans not only living at the same time as dinosaurs but actually co-existing to the point of humans and dinosaurs encountering each other regularly. Under those circumstances we would expect to see a lot more evidence of dinosaur/human coexistence than a few mythical representations and anecdotes of 'dragons and beasts'.

Maybe he will understand this better than what I have posted.  Goalpost shifting to meet the CT's perspective is.

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I am not shifting the goal. I was trying to use another example to illustrate what  I wanted to say. It was obvious you understood that I am totally with the creationists. Let us not turn to personal snipes OK?

[LionKing]

If what LionKing is saying is that maybe, possibly, a small population of dinosaurs have survived until  relatively recent times, this would be cryptozoology, not creationism. In which case I can only say that I would be delighted if it were ever proven true, but with such complete absence of physical evidence, I doubt it will ever happen.

HAVE HOPE

although these are mere eyewitnesses, but at least of the Mbembe they saw it close up and personal and even heard its loud noise .. so a lot better account than Nessie's

[Luke Pemberton]

No. She's not lying. Visit Scotland and Loch Ness and you'll understand there have been sightings of large fish that people believe. It's just that the explanation for their sightings can be explained by migratory sturgeon or prey seeking catfish. Now, are you going to ignore the food chain analysis of the biologists that have studied the Loch? There simply is not enough food to sustain a monster and its offspring. Please address the foodchain analysis and how this supports your monster theory.

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I hope you are not texting and DRIVING

No, I caught the train. No one with an ounce of sense would drive into central London.

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[LionKing]

Jason,
maybe they were rare, so you don't expect that extensive encounters, but they would have left humans impressed.

[LionKing]

No. She's not lying. Visit Scotland and Loch Ness and you'll understand there have been sightings of large fish that people believe. It's just that the explanation for their sightings can be explained by migratory sturgeon or prey seeking catfish. Now, are you going to ignore the food chain analysis of the biologists that have studied the Loch? There simply is not enough food to sustain a monster and its offspring. Please address the foodchain analysis and how this supports your monster theory.

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I don't have answer for every question re foodchain, but the woman is saying he stuck his head above the water and she saw it, then it drifted down.

[LionKing]

There is also a world of difference between the original claim and the coelocanth. Humans and coelocanths each live in parts of the world that are hostile to the other. The original claim is about humans not only living at the same time as dinosaurs but actually co-existing to the point of humans and dinosaurs encountering each other regularly. Under those circumstances we would expect to see a lot more evidence of dinosaur/human coexistence than a few mythical representations and anecdotes of 'dragons and beasts'.

Maybe he will understand this better than what I have posted.  Goalpost shifting to meet the CT's perspective is.

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She.  And if you find a way to get her to listen to opposing opinions, I'd be very interested in finding out what it is.  No one else has ever managed.

you notice how you pop up to create trouble?

[bknight]

No. She's not lying. Visit Scotland and Loch Ness and you'll understand there have been sightings of large fish that people believe. It's just that the explanation for their sightings can be explained by migratory sturgeon or prey seeking catfish. Now, are you going to ignore the food chain analysis of the biologists that have studied the Loch? There simply is not enough food to sustain a monster and its offspring. Please address the foodchain analysis and how this supports your monster theory.

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I hope you are not texting and DRIVING

No, I caught the train. No one with an ounce of sense would drive into central London.

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I've been on the train from out near  Heathrow down toward the Underground.

[Jason Thompson]

Creatures like that would have left a lot more than a few impressed humans behind them, however rare they were.

[Jason Thompson]

There is also a world of difference between the original claim and the coelocanth. Humans and coelocanths each live in parts of the world that are hostile to the other. The original claim is about humans not only living at the same time as dinosaurs but actually co-existing to the point of humans and dinosaurs encountering each other regularly. Under those circumstances we would expect to see a lot more evidence of dinosaur/human coexistence than a few mythical representations and anecdotes of 'dragons and beasts'.

Maybe he will understand this better than what I have posted.  Goalpost shifting to meet the CT's perspective is.

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She.  And if you find a way to get her to listen to opposing opinions, I'd be very interested in finding out what it is.  No one else has ever managed.

you notice how you pop up to create trouble?

Gillianren is not creating trouble, LionKing, she is stating a valid point. In all the years you have been posting here you have never grasped what science actually is all about despite numerous attempts by scientists on this discussion board to get you to understand, and you still pull up arguments like 'scientists say' and 'it would take only one find' to overturn a scientific idea.

[bknight]

you notice how you pop up to create trouble?

gillianren posts an interesting questions have you ever listened to an opposing opinion and changed yours?  I'm new so I don't know what mind set you have.  You certainly have not conceded that man did not live with dinosaurs as most of the rest of the world believes.