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Offline JayUtah

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Re: LRO photos show ascent stage still on the ground?
« Reply #30 on: October 01, 2012, 02:53:33 PM »
Videotic?

New word!  I claim it.  It's mine.  You all saw it here first...

We'll put it up right next to regurgigoogle.
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Re: LRO photos show ascent stage still on the ground?
« Reply #31 on: October 01, 2012, 08:45:05 PM »
Two of my other contributions to the English language:  "insaniac" and "disastrophe".
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Re: LRO photos show ascent stage still on the ground?
« Reply #32 on: October 01, 2012, 11:08:27 PM »
Two of my other contributions to the English language:  "insaniac" and "disastrophe".

disastrophe: The dire grammatical consequences that can result when an apostrophe is omitted or used in the wrong place in a word. Also know as a  "grammataclysm"

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Re: Re: LRO photos show ascent stage still on the ground?
« Reply #33 on: October 02, 2012, 10:06:38 AM »
To me it looks more like it is being obscured by flying debris.

There were a number of insulation blankets atop the descent stage, ostensibly to help absorb, diffuse, and deflect the APS plume.  They didn't want it rebounding and damaging the underside of the descent stage, so they made sure there was a lot of crinkly stuff under it to disrupt the fluid flow.  It looks like a lot of that blanket film ended up snagged in the plume deflectors, and it may be creating false outlines.

I love this particular clip also for the "no plume" naysayers.  At the "Pitchover!" call you can look directly up the APS nozzle skirt (giggle) and see into the APS thrust chamber where it is most distinctly glowing.  While we don't expect the plume to remain incandescent after it exits, there is every expectation it should incandesce while in the thrust chamber.  And we have photographic proof of it.

They'll just say it was a light bulb.

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Re: Re: LRO photos show ascent stage still on the ground?
« Reply #34 on: October 03, 2012, 01:39:46 PM »
They'll just say it was a light bulb.

It was.  A hydrazine and nitrogen tetroxide powered light bulb.
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Re: LRO photos show ascent stage still on the ground?
« Reply #35 on: October 03, 2012, 01:42:40 PM »
Two of my other contributions to the English language:  "insaniac" and "disastrophe".

How portmanteaudacious of you.
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Re: LRO photos show ascent stage still on the ground?
« Reply #36 on: October 03, 2012, 06:08:52 PM »
Two of my other contributions to the English language:  "insaniac" and "disastrophe".

You can't claim 'disastrophe': My family were using that one before my age was into double digits.
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Re: LRO photos show ascent stage still on the ground?
« Reply #37 on: October 04, 2012, 02:16:12 PM »
They'll just say it was a light bulb.

It was.  A hydrazine and nitrogen tetroxide powered light bulb.

I think you're mixing light bulb up with candle.

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Re: LRO photos show ascent stage still on the ground?
« Reply #38 on: October 04, 2012, 05:57:12 PM »
I think you're mixing light bulb up with candle.

Candles don't burn in vacuum.

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Re: LRO photos show ascent stage still on the ground?
« Reply #39 on: October 04, 2012, 06:14:29 PM »
If we are going to get technical, it could be classified as a kind of lamp, perhaps.

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Re: LRO photos show ascent stage still on the ground?
« Reply #40 on: October 05, 2012, 05:20:12 AM »
Two of my other contributions to the English language:  "insaniac" and "disastrophe".

Not only was Insaniac one of the characters in Small Soldiers, it is also the name of a thrash metal band born in 1984.

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Offline JayUtah

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Re: LRO photos show ascent stage still on the ground?
« Reply #41 on: October 05, 2012, 09:51:37 AM »
Candles don't burn in vacuum.

Unless they're self oxidizing.
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Re: LRO photos show ascent stage still on the ground?
« Reply #42 on: October 05, 2012, 11:10:51 AM »
I think you're mixing light bulb up with candle.
Candles don't burn in vacuum.
See, proof it was filmed on a sound stage, HA! /HB
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Re: LRO photos show ascent stage still on the ground?
« Reply #43 on: October 05, 2012, 05:23:48 PM »
You know, even if they were faking it and sending unmanned vehicles to replicate Apollo for any future prying eyes, why would they even send the ascent stage, inconceivable?
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Re: Re: LRO photos show ascent stage still on the ground?
« Reply #44 on: October 06, 2012, 04:38:03 AM »
It was.  A hydrazine and nitrogen tetroxide powered light bulb.
Correction...an Aerozine-50* and nitrogen tetroxide powered light bulb. :-)

A pretty inefficient one, too.

* Aerozine-50: a 50-50 mix of straight hydrazine (N2H4) and UDMH (C2H6N2H2).