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[DD Brock]

Never thought about it before, and it's likely a really dumb question, but how did they unlatch the probe and drogue for undocking? I couldn't find an explanation anywhere... just reverse the "scissor jack?"

[Abaddon]

Never thought about it before, and it's likely a really dumb question, but how did they unlatch the probe and drogue for undocking? I couldn't find an explanation anywhere... just reverse the "scissor jack?"

No such thing as a "dumb question". I read up on the mechanism a zillion years ago, so I shall have a rummage and see what I can find. Likely, Jay has it at his fingertips though and will beat me to the punch.

[bknight]

Never thought about it before, and it's likely a really dumb question, but how did they unlatch the probe and drogue for undocking? I couldn't find an explanation anywhere... just reverse the "scissor jack?"

No such thing as a "dumb question". I read up on the mechanism a zillion years ago, so I shall have a rummage and see what I can find. Likely, Jay has it at his fingertips though and will beat me to the punch.

I emailed Eric Jones yesterday looking for the in flight TV video.  It isn't on the ALSJ as far as I can find it.  Waiting for a response.  Anybody have a link to a video of that broadcast?

[Kiwi]

Eric edits the Apollo Lunar Surface Journal.  As I suggested in post 96, you should try the Apollo Flight Journal for flight information. It has different editors.
http://history.nasa.gov/afj/

ETA: Added "you"

[bknight]

Eric edits the Apollo Lunar Surface Journal.  As I suggested in post 96, shouldn't you be trying the Apollo Flight Journal?
http://history.nasa.gov/afj/

There are images/movie clips in the ALSJ with both Eric and Ken Glover listed as editors, I chose the first.  I have received a reply today where Eric basically forwarded my email to David Woods and Ken Glover.  They may have all separated the components to make it a easier to manage.
Do you have a link to the Flight Journal?

[Kiwi]

Do you have a link to the Flight Journal?

Yes.  It's in both posts 96 and 108, and in your quote in post 109.  Please read the information we give you.

Edited to add: Did you also record the link in post 99? Some of the links at the Nasa site don't work or are missing, so to access all of Apollo By the Numbers, you need the multitude of links provided.

[bknight]

I received an email concerning the videos during the trip out/back and unfortunately the haven't transferred the raw material.
Ken Glover did link a video,

, however the hatch had been just removed and is being stowed at the beginning of the video.

[smartcooky]

This forum is just amazing.

I ask a simple question, I get a couple of simple answers which I am satisfied with.... happy is me!

I go away for a couple of days and come back to find the answers have kept coming and in minute and comprehensive detail. It is this detail - the extensive documentation of the seemingly most insignificant bits of technology; the detailed recording of the tiniest and seemingly most trivial tasks; the "no stone left unturned" nature of the Apollo record, that ought to convince any reasonable person that Apollo really did take place exactly as advertised.

Not only that, but the answers lead to more questions and related information, about Apollo, that can be verified due to the comprehensive detail in the Apollo record.

For mine, this shows just how unreasonable idiots like Heiwa, Hunchbacked, Weisbecker and the Blunder are. 

[smartcooky]

I watched part one of a programme on SkyTV called "13 Factors that saved Apollo 13" , and about 20 minutes in, there it was, a view down the tunnel when they were removing and stowing the hatch, and the docking mechanism is clearly visible...

[bknight]

I watched part one of a programme on SkyTV called "13 Factors that saved Apollo 13" , and about 20 minutes in, there it was, a view down the tunnel when they were removing and stowing the hatch, and the docking mechanism is clearly visible...

Although there isn't a transfer of the hatch in A11, here is a YT video just after the Probe and Drogue has been removed.

Is the SkyTV program recorded?

[smartcooky]

I watched part one of a programme on SkyTV called "13 Factors that saved Apollo 13" , and about 20 minutes in, there it was, a view down the tunnel when they were removing and stowing the hatch, and the docking mechanism is clearly visible...

Although there isn't a transfer of the hatch in A11, here is a YT video just after the Probe and Drogue has been removed.

Is the SkyTV program recorded?

Yes it is, and part two is booked

[mako88sb]

Isn't the LM as it stands also a 'tail sitter'? I think the biggest problem with an Apollo Direct, at least as initially envisioned, was Nova. The Saturn V was big, but Nova. . . . At least one configuration had a 2nd stage with a bigger diameter 2nd stage than the Saturn V first stage!

Indeed it is, but it is a heck of a lot closer to the ground than a direct return craft would be.

Nova was designed for a direct ascent. An EOR plan would have used rockets about half the size of the Saturn V. Multiple launches of these would be used to get the components of the Lunar lander into LEO, where the lander would be assembled.

I'm reading Apollo The Race to the Moon right now and they mentioned that due to the tremendous noise NOVA would of generated, they were actually looking at someway to sea launch it. I found this article that explains it a bit more near the bottom of it. Even mentions that one concept studied was to launch it from hollowed out launch tubes in Hawaiian cliff sides?!?!? Quite the logistics nightmare to pull that one off. Anybody aware of this study and where it might be located? I also read the logistics chapter in Stages to Saturn. I'm not even sure they could of built NOVA as it seems the Saturn V really pushed them to the limits transporting all the different components to the assembly location.

http://www.astronautix.com/lvs/nova.htm

[smartcooky]

Isn't the LM as it stands also a 'tail sitter'? I think the biggest problem with an Apollo Direct, at least as initially envisioned, was Nova. The Saturn V was big, but Nova. . . . At least one configuration had a 2nd stage with a bigger diameter 2nd stage than the Saturn V first stage!

Indeed it is, but it is a heck of a lot closer to the ground than a direct return craft would be.

Nova was designed for a direct ascent. An EOR plan would have used rockets about half the size of the Saturn V. Multiple launches of these would be used to get the components of the Lunar lander into LEO, where the lander would be assembled.

I'm reading Apollo The Race to the Moon right now and they mentioned that due to the tremendous noise it would of generated, they were actually looking at someway to sea launch it. I found this article that explains it a bit more near the bottom of it. Even mentions that one concept studied was to launch it from hollowed out launch tubes in Hawaiian cliff sides?!?!? Quite the logistics nightmare to pull that one off. Anybody aware of this study and where it might be located? I also read the logistics chapter in Stages to Saturn. I'm not even sure they could of built NOVA as it seems the Saturn V really pushed them to the limits transporting all the different components to the assembly location.

http://www.astronautix.com/lvs/nova.htm

I have just recorded a doco on the History Channel called "The Saturn V Story" but I haven't watched it yet. Maybe they will mention these aspects.

[bknight]

I have just recorded a doco on the History Channel called "The Saturn V Story" but I haven't watched it yet. Maybe they will mention these aspects.

Is it part of the Moon Machines series?

[smartcooky]

I have just recorded a doco on the History Channel called "The Saturn V Story" but I haven't watched it yet. Maybe they will mention these aspects.

Is it part of the Moon Machines series?

I don't think so. "Moon Machines" was released in 2008, but this doco  has a release date of 2014

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3884454/